Question about the hour fast before receiving

[ProVobis]

No, Fran. ProVobis is saying that a God who allows consequences is not contradictory to a merciful God.

Yes, thank you. I should have clarified. In fact, in the Mass we pray for mercy (Kyrie Eleison, clementissime Pater, etc.)

 

[frangiuliano115]

Your fervent desire to help others see past legalism and focus on a relationship with Jesus. I think the problem is your delivery.

I agree with you. And that’s why I’m not posting anymore on this thread.

If I could answer Monicad as I did and then get reply no. 97, there’s a problem in communication.

Let me just say that there’s a difference between traditional catholicism and legalism.
Maybe some are getting the two terms mixed up.

Fran

 

[ProVobis]

Look at your name. It must come from:

This Is My Body Which Has Been Given Up For You

Very good. Actually I used it because the “pro vobis” was the forgotten part in all the “pro multis” debates.

And notice I did not crack a “sour grapes” joke on this thread.

 

[guanophore]

I agree with you. And that’s why I’m not posting anymore on this thread.

If I could answer Monicad as I did and then get reply no. 97, there’s a problem in communication.

Let me just say that there’s a difference between traditional catholicism and legalism.
Maybe some are getting the two terms mixed up.

Fran

Just FYI, for future reference, this dynamic has happened on several threads in which you have participated. It seems to me, that rather than trying to understand how your readers are understanding the terms, you just project your meaning into them, then react to them.

This is the first time on this thread I can remember seeing “traditional catholicism”.

Adults, unlike children, bring much more life experience to the learning experience, so new information has to go through the filters of that experience,

Between the age of 10-13 children attain abstract thinking ability at the level where the concrete black and white does not prevent them from reasoning further as it does in younger children. Your black and white either/or mindset works fine for children who are still in concrete thinking, but is counterproductive with adults.

 

[OraLabora]

The exceptions are duly noted-- medicine, those who are ill and their caretakers visited by a priest or extraordinary minister, in danger of death, with dispensation.

Just a note that for diabetics, food is medicine if blood sugar gets too low.

Threads like this just flabbergast me. In my cultural background, we tend to observe the spirit rather than the letter of the law.

That said, there is no rule that one must receive the Eucharist at every Mass one attends. So if someone is bothered by that one grape, simply skip receiving until the next Mass.

Some point out that the fast seems lenient compared to past practice. Past practice wasn’t just overly strict, it was actually dangerous for one’s health. When I was a child I remember a young woman passing out at Mass because of the overnight fast, at a late-morning Mass on a very hot and humid summer day; my father, good samaritan that he was, bundled her into our car and we drove her home. We’re not all Carthusian monks…

Fortunately it is a matter of discipline, not doctrine and the Church could and did change it.

 

[frangiuliano115]

Just a note that for diabetics, food is medicine if blood sugar gets too low.

Threads like this just flabbergast me. In my cultural background, we tend to observe the spirit rather than the letter of the law.

That said, there is no rule that one must receive the Eucharist at every Mass one attends. So if someone is bothered by that one grape, simply skip receiving until the next Mass.

Some point out that the fast seems lenient compared to past practice. Past practice wasn’t just overly strict, it was actually dangerous for one’s health. When I was a child I remember a young woman passing out at Mass because of the overnight fast, at a late-morning Mass on a very hot and humid summer day; my father, good samaritan that he was, bundled her into our car and we drove her home. We’re not all Carthusian monks…

Fortunately it is a matter of discipline, not doctrine and the Church could and did change it.

Could you please explain the difference between the letter of the Law
and the spirit of the law?

Thanks.