johnnyt, whos house did the Lord Jesus go to and eat at that was NOT owned by a sinner(repented or not)? :bigyikes: Are we, as His followers, any better than He was/is? Should we hold our fellow sinners to a higher standtert then He did?
Alienating someone accomplishes nothing.
They don’t have reason ton know that an aunt/uncles’s marriage is invalid. It’s better for them to just think of them as married. A live-in unmarried couple is more cause for concern because kids pick up on that more.
And it’s better for my future kids to not know if he/she is committing adultery, after all, everything is much better if you just lie and pretend that everything is okay when it is really not. Especially when your kids actually start learning the teachings of the church. Then they will be confused and think that something is okay when it is not.
No. You don’t get it. My daughter is only 3 and my 2nd child should be born in December.
Good explanation!No. You don’t get it. My daughter is only 3 and my 2nd child should be born in December.
My daughter doesn’t need to know that her uncles and aunts didn’t receive dispensation from the Bishop to get married. At least now while she is young and impressionable, or ever for that matter.
That’s one of the fastest ways to raise an atheist or Protestant… Telling them that the nice aunt or uncle they have are living in mortal sin because they don’t have a dispensation. The child has to understand and believe the teachings of the Church first.
Children can learn from the sins of the past without always knowing the full details. For example, I never knew until my twenties that my grandmother got married after she was pregnant. No one told me. I always knew she wore a gray suit on her wedding day, but I actually thought getting married in a gray suit was common for women back in the late 1940s!
What a child doesn’t know about the private lives of adults can’t hurt them. You still teach your children that adultery is evil, but you don’t have to point out every adulteress and fornicator to them.
However, it’s a totally different story if they find out or realize the situation. Then, it must be dealt with properly and with love.
As for my mother-in-law, I have no idea what we are going to do because my wife doesn’t believe that her mother is doing anything bad (my wife isn’t Catholic).
A parent can hide a family member’s invalid marriage due to lack of Catholic form, but you can’t hide a divorce or a couple living together outside of marriage.
Finally, this is why sexual sin is soooooo bad. It brings scandal to children. And for those who are not married, remember you don’t just marry your spouse, your marry his/her family too. Those people will have an influence on your children for ever.
Where we go for eternity is more important than our temporary lives here on earth.
When I said “nice” I was talking about those who don’t want to tell people the truth about what the church teaches because it may “offend” them. The type of people who only say what you want to hear. Those type of Catholics who are only about love and compassion (which are good of course), but NOTHING ELSE! Look up Fr. Steven Scheier’s near death experience. He was condemned to hell for being “nice” to others as I have described.
Ok, but if/when I have kids, if they ask me, I’m not gonna lie to them about a church teaching. (And Im not saying that you are)No. You don’t get it. My daughter is only 3 and my 2nd child should be born in December.
My daughter doesn’t need to know that her uncles and aunts didn’t receive dispensation from the Bishop to get married. At least now while she is young and impressionable, or ever for that matter.
That’s one of the fastest ways to raise an atheist or Protestant… Telling them that the nice aunt or uncle they have are living in mortal sin because they don’t have a dispensation. The child has to understand and believe the teachings of the Church first.
Children can learn from the sins of the past without always knowing the full details. For example, I never knew until my twenties that my grandmother got married after she was pregnant. No one told me. I always knew she wore a gray suit on her wedding day, but I actually thought getting married in a gray suit was common for women back in the late 1940s!
What a child doesn’t know about the private lives of adults can’t hurt them. You still teach your children that adultery is evil, but you don’t have to point out every adulteress and fornicator to them.
However, it’s a totally different story if they find out or realize the situation. Then, it must be dealt with properly and with love.
As for my mother-in-law, I have no idea what we are going to do because my wife doesn’t believe that her mother is doing anything bad (my wife isn’t Catholic).
A parent can hide a family member’s invalid marriage due to lack of Catholic form, but you can’t hide a divorce or a couple living together outside of marriage.
Finally, this is why sexual sin is soooooo bad. It brings scandal to children. And for those who are not married, remember you don’t just marry your spouse, your marry his/her family too. Those people will have an influence on your children for ever.
Fair enough, but not many kids will ask you about “valid/in-valid marriage” unless you are feeding them with the terminology.
I would NEVER lie about Church Teaching. I’m just not going to point out sinners. (Again, I don’t know how I’m going to approach my mother-in-law’s situation … I pray that they marry, though I don’t think they are interested in doing it)
Possible reasons that one sin is different from another is some sins are ongoing/continuous and public. The perceived level of scandal is also relevant in some situations.
Marriage somehow seems more of a public existing thing than being a person who has skipped mass for the last long length of time, though I can’t really quantify it. A person who lies a lot, I would not like to go to their house. I would only go if obligated by something.