Question about the Rosary

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Jon_S said:
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God is up there in heaven with his indulgence cook book checking each step to see that you did it right, oh you said 9 Hail Marys by accident that decade…no Good!

I hope we all agree God does not operate in such a way.

Further, going to mass is different.

Whether the church specifically dictated it or not, a partial indulgence occurrs whenever we acknowledge God above ourselves.
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I don’t appreciate a sarcastic tone, implying that I’m speaking of Legalism. Also I’m speaking of the Decades, not the Ave Maria’s.

Also you are not entirely correct in your last statement. It is true when you raise your mind with humble confidence to God, a partial indulgence is obtained (see short-Ejaculations). If in a state of mortal sin, no indulgence is granted whatsoever. Indulgences are not “get out of Hell” free cards. There are specific requirements in order receive indulgences.
  • be in a state of grace (free of mortal sin).
  • intend to receive the indulgence
  • perform the prescribed action of the indulgence
 
JM3 said:
The Rosary is not the Mass and should not be compared to the Mass.
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No it is not, but my point is…the Church has laid out specific requirements on what is considered valid.

ie when a Sunday obligation is valid, and when one may gain an indulgence from praying the Rosary.

My point is, the Church is pretty clear on this stuff.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
With due respect to all on this thread, it is my personal experience that very few practicing Catholics, apart from Priest, Brothers, and Nuns, pray the Rosary daily.
Most of them say a few minimal daily prayers, if they say any at all outside of Mass.
Most American Catholics reserve their praying for Sunday Mass and possibly an occasional Novena.
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I must move in unusual circles, then, because that is not my experience of Catholics.
 
=BobDanners;11018520]I don’t appreciate a sarcastic tone, implying that I’m speaking of Legalism. Also I’m speaking of the Decades, not the Ave Maria’s.
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Also you are not entirely correct in your last statement. It is true when you raise your mind with humble confidence to God, a partial indulgence is obtained (see short-Ejaculations). If in a state of mortal sin, no indulgence is granted whatsoever. Indulgences are not “get out of Hell” free cards. There are specific requirements in order receive indulgences.
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  • be in a state of grace (free of mortal sin).
  • intend to receive the indulgence
  • perform the prescribed action of the indulgence
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And you have a RIGHT to b upset.

Few things are more fustrating to ME than christian LACK OF charity! WWJD!?

Say a prayer for them and move on.

WELCOME to the FORUM!👍
 
I may need to clarify, I am not praying the rosary for the sake of indulgences.

I pray for -

Conversion of sinners
Peace
The St. Jude cancer patient of the month, their family and the staff of St Jude who care for him or her.
For the Blessed Mother’s intercession in my life

And in that order. So if I get any indulgences out of it that’s a bonus.

FYI - You can be a St. Jude Partner in Hope for just a $20 a month bank draft.

www.stjude.org/partnerinhope
 
BobDanners said:
I don’t appreciate a sarcastic tone, implying that I’m speaking of Legalism. Also I’m speaking of the Decades, not the Ave Maria’s.

Also you are not entirely correct in your last statement. It is true when you raise your mind with humble confidence to God, a partial indulgence is obtained (see short-Ejaculations). If in a state of mortal sin, no indulgence is granted whatsoever. Indulgences are not “get out of Hell” free cards. There are specific requirements in order receive indulgences.
  • be in a state of grace (free of mortal sin).
  • intend to receive the indulgence
  • perform the prescribed action of the indulgence
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Forgive me if my hyperbole example came across as patronizing.

I merely wanted to emphasize that we need to conform ourselves to Christ and focus on that more than the details. Details are important, but we must remember that indulgences are a pastoral tool we can utilize to help us work out our faith.
 
I may be wrong, but I read somewhere that catholics should not be praying the rosary, something about meaningless repetition. No sure where I heard this, but I can look for it, I believe it was a bible verse. Anyone know what Im talking about?
 
mikekle said:
I may be wrong, but I read somewhere that catholics should not be praying the rosary, something about meaningless repetition. No sure where I heard this, but I can look for it, I believe it was a bible verse. Anyone know what Im talking about?
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Check out Jimmy Akins video in YouTube

There is a verse against vain repetitions, but it is only vain if you say it with no heart, no meditation, etc.

You can tell Jesus I love you a million times a day. It is not vain if you mean it.
 
esmac said:
I may need to clarify, I am not praying the rosary for the sake of indulgences.

I pray for -

Conversion of sinners
Peace
The St. Jude cancer patient of the month, their family and the staff of St Jude who care for him or her.
For the Blessed Mother’s intercession in my life

And in that order. So if I get any indulgences out of it that’s a bonus.

FYI - You can be a St. Jude Partner in Hope for just a $20 a month bank draft.

www.stjude.org/partnerinhope
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Then for that there’s nothing that would prevent the Blessed Virgin from hearing your prayers and interceding for you. 🙂

There’s nothing wrong if you can’t finish 5 decades, but if you can, just know you obtain a partial indulgence from it.
mikekle said:
I may be wrong, but I read somewhere that catholics should not be praying the rosary, something about meaningless repetition. No sure where I heard this, but I can look for it, I believe it was a bible verse. Anyone know what Im talking about?
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What!? :eek: Don’t you know what Our Lady of Fatima commanded us to do?
 
BobDanners said:
Then for that there’s nothing that would prevent the Blessed Virgin from hearing your prayers and interceding for you. 🙂

There’s nothing wrong if you can’t finish 5 decades, but if you can, just know you obtain a partial indulgence from it.
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Bob Danners, I hope you are right. I really struggle with sin sometimes, and I often don’t think I deserve an indulgence.

Here is another way to earn an indulgence I learned from reading Blessed Fulton Sheen’s book The Priest Is Not His Own:

“Read the office of the day (Breviary) in the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, a practice for which a plenary indulgence is granted.” (p.146)
 
esmac said:
Bob Danners, I hope you are right. I really struggle with sin sometimes, and I often don’t think I deserve an indulgence.

Here is another way to earn an indulgence I learned from reading Blessed Fulton Sheen’s book The Priest Is Not His Own:

“Read the office of the day (Breviary) in the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, a practice for which a plenary indulgence is granted.” (p.146)
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All the more reason to pray the Rosary. 👍

Trust me, if Christ can convert Bartolo Longo who was once a satanist priest, there’s hope for you. Pray the Rosary as much as you can…that’s what Bartolo would tell ya 🙂
 
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