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Wesley7
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Hello,
Specifically, what year did the Roman Church declare papal supremacy? thanks.
Specifically, what year did the Roman Church declare papal supremacy? thanks.
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YoungTradCath
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Papal infallibility?
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MartyrForJesus
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The First Vatican Council if I remember correctly.
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manualman
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First example was when God revealed to St. Peter that the Mosaic law regarding ‘unclean’ foods was lifted. Peter proceeded to inform the other apostles and the church at large. I suppose he should have collegially consulted with the other apostles first. Shame on him… 
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Wesley7
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Reading a timeline of church history the Vatican papacy did not make such a declaration until after the “1054” schizm.
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PrayForMeStJude
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Depends what you mean by “papal supremacy.” And remember, dogmas aren;t officially “declared” until there is some reason to, such as a significant challenge to them. Which is why the immaculate conception was only recently defined, yet that belief can be attested to in writings from the patristic age.
If you look at the Gospels and the Book of Acts Peter clearly acts as leader of the Apostles, both in praying in the Temple area, preaching on Pentecost, and leading the Council of Jerusalem.
The earliest non-biblical evidence of “papal supremacy” is sometimes taken to be the First Epistle of Clement (info here), in which Clement, as Bishop of Rome, admonishes churches in other areas.
The First Vatican Council clarified many teachings about papal powers, including papal infallibility. The Pope’s universal jurisdiction, to which you may be referring, was discussed at many other councils throughout history as well.
If you look at the Gospels and the Book of Acts Peter clearly acts as leader of the Apostles, both in praying in the Temple area, preaching on Pentecost, and leading the Council of Jerusalem.
The earliest non-biblical evidence of “papal supremacy” is sometimes taken to be the First Epistle of Clement (info here), in which Clement, as Bishop of Rome, admonishes churches in other areas.
The First Vatican Council clarified many teachings about papal powers, including papal infallibility. The Pope’s universal jurisdiction, to which you may be referring, was discussed at many other councils throughout history as well.
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dcointin
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Was there something in particular going on in the late 19th century that prompted this council and declaration?
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opus101
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Often, declarations are not made until there is a need for them, for instance, something that has always been held is now called into question.
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PrayForMeStJude
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Well, the whole order of Western Civilization was changing rapidly. Revolutions wrere overthrowing dynasties and redrawing borders that had been in place for centuries. Rationalism and modernism had just led to the horrors of the French Revolution and its aftermath. The industrial revolution was gaining steam, materialism was spreading, and unrest with it. Nationalism was starting to rear its ugly head and Europe’s political system was working itself into a real mess. The first scent of what would become World War One, the great War to End All Wars, was in the air.
To many Europeans, especially those involved in an old institution such as the Church, it looked like the world was falling apart. Vatican I was in many ways a conservative reaction against these changes and attempt to re-entrench the Church as the stabilizing factor of European identity.
A Council hadn’t been held since Trent, when the world also seemed poised to jump off the deep end, but it was only a century into the future that the Western word was again in chaos and the Church convened its most recent Council.
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Vico
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Vatican I was necessary to oppose the trend of rationalism and modernism. Two important dogmas resulted: Dei Filius, this explains the relationship between reason and faith, and Pastor Aeternus, on the Church, primacy, and teaching authority, which established the doctrine of papal infallibility.
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BertBlyleven
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Pope Gregory VII officially declared Papal supremacy, and his decrees are often known as the Gregorian Reforms. This came shortly after and in response to the 1054 “schism.” Popes writing on without formally declaring Papal supremacy goes back much earlier, however, particularly during the rise of the Patriarch of Constantinople. Though the Popes during and shortly after the First Council of Constantinople accepted the idea of Constantinople as “second in honor” (I’ve read Pope Damasus rejected this idea but reluctantly accepted for the sake of church unity), they remained largely silent about it, and always held to Rome’s primacy. Pope St. Gregory I, as far as we know, even accepted only the dogmas from the council.
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