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How much should Catholics believe in fate?
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mgn2010
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Fate would not seem to be compatible with our belief that God is intrinsically involved with our very being. As it is said, He has a plan for each one of us and we are obligated to seek that out in our daily undertakings through a prayerful life and following our good conscience. Fate usually implies occurrences taking place outside of God’s scope and I don’t think that fits our faith beliefs. However, if it alludes to finding one’s way to a particular way of life, single, consecrated, married then “fate” may be interpreted as finding the path God has led us to and taking it on as a source of growing closer to Him.
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ZIon_Tong
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I think the answer would be Yes and No. Like the what I asked in the previous thread (forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=813709), yes for that there could be a so-called fate in light of the gods omniscience, and no because we ourselves are dominate our conducts and even with the influence of God and devil we are still the men who take the final action. You may find the explanation unacceptable as no thing can be existing and not existing simultaneously, which I was confused too before. Well, my way to deal with it is just focus more on what God taught than how God does like how exactly did God create in the strict sense the world.
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Linusthe2nd
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The Catholic Church rejects the notion of fate, coincidence, or chance. These fall into the category of superstitions. The Catholic Church teaches that God governs the world according to His will, down to the minutest detail, except for the free will of man, who may choose to do what God wills or not.How much should Catholics believe in fate?
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Kamaduck
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Stupid question, but how do we explain the laws of probability if we don’t believe in any sort of chance? Just want to see how this squares with math class.The Catholic Church rejects the notion of fate, coincidence, or chance. These fall into the category of superstitions. The Catholic Church teaches that God governs the world according to His will, down to the minutest detail, except for the free will of man, who may choose to do what God wills or not.
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I generally think of God as an author. The events here on earth (the story he’s writing) flow from each other perfectly and have sensible cause-effect relationships, but he is still in control of them, and he is also the one who “writes” the story in such a way that it has meaning and purpose beyond those cause-effect relationships. Like any good story, it makes sense on multiple levels.
I don’t believe in some impersonal “fate”. I believe in a happy ending to a story that God has written/is writing. While the events here in earth are going to reach that end no matter what, I think it will happen because of our choices, not in spite of them.
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Linusthe2nd
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Don’t know how Chuch teaching squares with the probabilities of math, except to say that with probabilities we don’t see all the cause effect actions, we see some of them and make predictions based on that. I think the fact that we are correct a certain percent of the time demonstrates adequately that everything has a cause, whether or not we can determine what it is.Stupid question, but how do we explain the laws of probability if we don’t believe in any sort of chance? Just want to see how this squares with math class.
I generally think of God as an author. The events here on earth (the story he’s writing) flow from each other perfectly and have sensible cause-effect relationships, but he is still in control of them, and he is also the one who “writes” the story in such a way that it has meaning and purpose beyond those cause-effect relationships. Like any good story, it makes sense on multiple levels.
I don’t believe in some impersonal “fate”. I believe in a happy ending to a story that God has written/is writing. While the events here in earth are going to reach that end no matter what, I think it will happen because of our choices, not in spite of them.
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wcknight
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We believe God gives each of us free will, so everything that happens may be random. Every person has many choices to make, no one is a robot. Probabilities still occur as they should, as there are a full range of people most folks will act in a fairly predicable and rational manner (assuming that most folks are fairly rational).
About the only thing that we can not change is when God calls us. Jesus tells us that not a bird falls from the sky unless God wills it. So it seems to me the duration of our physical existence is up to the Almighty even though it may not already be predetermined. So even in that sense our fate is not set in stone. When God wants us home, we will return.
About the only thing that we can not change is when God calls us. Jesus tells us that not a bird falls from the sky unless God wills it. So it seems to me the duration of our physical existence is up to the Almighty even though it may not already be predetermined. So even in that sense our fate is not set in stone. When God wants us home, we will return.
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