Question for all protestants

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pocohombre said:
I like the question cause it properly supposes freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, and that when the same question was somewhat posed to the apostles (“Whom do men say that I am ?”), there were many answers from within Judaism. But what put it all together properly was not a magisterium , or the Sanhedrin, or the rabbis from this sect or that sect, or the High Priest. No “truth boxes”, no “institutional truth police” but as uncontainable as the wind, the Spirit of God, the Father in heaven reveals truth to humble and broken hearts as He chooses, and nothing shall prevail against it. So when you get variation , God is at work, trying to bring as much uniformity as possible. When you have uniformity it could be that God has succeeded, but it could also mean people are relying on an institution or a neat little box of truth instead of divine revelation.
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But you rely, poco, on an institution. The Catholic institution.

God used the CC to tell you what belongs in the NT.

You would not know it any other way.

So it seems curious to me that you would dismiss “relying on an institution” when you yourself do this each and every time you quote from, say, Hebrews, as the inspired Word of God.

Who told you that Hebrews was the inspired Word of God?

Answer: an institution.
 
Picky_Picky said:
Well, an attack on freedom of speech it was, of course, but I don’t know that that’s the worst of it, is it? Wasn’t it, even more significantly, an attack on the people who were burned?

Can I take it from what you say that, the Holy Spirit being all in favour, you would think it a good thing for it to be reinstated today, for those who want to promote falsehoods, whether knowingly or not?
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I asked Eric to open this thread for one reason. For the last few years strange things have happened to me. I can’t explain it never will. My husband used to look at me like I was crazy when I told him until he experienced it with me, Then he just left it to God having his way of talking to me I guess.😃

And it happened again Sunday and you guys can actually see what I have experienced and he saw. Now you will see it.

We have been talking about off topic may I add, and got derailed on why would the burning of bodies ever be the will of God. How could this be possible. As we know the Roman Law is not longer used, we have found other ways of putting people to death. Legal injection.

But here is what the sermon was yesterday, the strange things that happens to me all the time, not that the sermon or scripture was strange, Its the timing. Here is what I need to share with you. cont…
 
We need to go to the book of Malachi 3: 18-21

Father was speaking of people being burned alive. He was speaking on how people who were wicked indeed experienced being burned by the fire.

But here is the point I think everyone here fails to see, but one person. When people were burned as the scripture states those who fear my name will arise the sun of justice with its healing rays.

Father said that for those who would experience this, many things would be accomplished. For some who lets say were on the wrong track would experience not beng burned to death how we see it, but a burning away of sin comming out of them and leaving them with a healing that is beyond measure.

For those who were burned unjustly all they experienced was healing rays like that from the Sun, while it is hot it is wonderful and soothing to them.

And for the wicked as stated will be ashes under the soles of your feet.

For those of us who think, how could God ever let this happen, it goes to show us, we are not to ever judge God, or try to figure out things on our own. As we proved here once again, we are not able to do so.

We still continue to think like human minds, not as God thinks. or as God gives us in the RCC the Adcocate the Holy Spirit to teach us.

If you guys seen it, then you are better then I. But no one else IMHO understood it. Except maybe one person.
 
So while we may have been Off Topic, in a ironic way we were not.

It is why we need someone with Authority and knowledge from the Holy Spirit to speak for God and show us his one truth.

I will be the first to admit, I never saw it, But it was predicted in Malachi.
 
And for the sake of arguing isn’t the Electric Chair our means of Captial Punishment in the year and age?

Is the Electric Chair not the burning of flesh?😊
 
PRmerger said:
There’s probably some heretics burning right now. :sad_yes:
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I’m not sure how Catholics interpret the second death and the lake of fire.

But my question is; we should still burn heretics ourselves, correct?
 
dronald said:
I’m not sure how Catholics interpret the second death and the lake of fire.

But my question is; we should still burn heretics ourselves, correct?
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No! We should not be burning heretics today!

However, clearly, “it is not against the will of the Holy Spirit that heretics be burned”.
 
PRmerger said:
No! We should not be burning heretics today!

However, clearly, “it is not against the will of the Holy Spirit that heretics be burned”.
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The Catholic Church would now be justified in burning heretics then, if they wanted to.
 
PRmerger said:
No, friend.

The love of God is the active, proximate, combusting agency, to be sure.
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Ok. Are these hypotheticals involved in burning, in the sublunary sphere, here on earth, currently, or in the final judgement?

IOW, is your original statement saying that there, currently, humans actively burning other humans/heretics, here and now?

GKC
 
dronald said:
The Catholic Church would now be justified in burning heretics then, if they wanted to.
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No more than we would be justified in killing babies, right?

For it is not against the will of the Holy Spirit that babies die–we are agreed on that, yes?

See where that takes you?
 
PRmerger said:
No more than we would be justified in killing babies, right?

For it is not against the will of the Holy Spirit that babies die–we are agreed on that, yes?

See where that takes you?
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I would argue that killing babies is against the will of the Spirit… where are you going with this?

I’m saying the CC still could order heretics be burned for being heretics as God would not disapprove.
 
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