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Monica4316
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I posted this in “Apologetics” but I think maybe this is a better place for it - as it involves a question for the Orthodox posters too…
I have a question about kenosis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosis
As I came across the term, it just talks about emptying yourself of your own desires, passions, etc, to receive God more. In that form, it seemed similar to Catholic spiritual writers like St John of the Cross and many approved mystics. I don’t know if I’ve understood correctly. The term is mostly used in the East. I know a lot of the Catholic mystics spoke about emptying yourself of your own will (not as a faculty, as we remain with free will, but letting our will follow God’s Will totally). Is that the same, or slightly different?
When I read the Wikipedia page about it, it talks about a particular point that was condemned by a Pope… (in the Roman Catholic section). The condemned point was that Christ emptied Himself of His Divinity. Of course, that would be wrong because He always stayed God and Man and is still both God and Man in Heaven too.
My question is, the Orthodox don’t teach this condemned point do they? they just talk about the same understanding that Catholics would have of the topic? has anything been said about this?
If any Orthodox posters could help me with the Orthodox understanding that would be great… and my question for Catholics is what the Catholic Church says about this…
what would the Church say about it? I came across the term “kenosis” in some Catholic books… thanks!
I have a question about kenosis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosis
As I came across the term, it just talks about emptying yourself of your own desires, passions, etc, to receive God more. In that form, it seemed similar to Catholic spiritual writers like St John of the Cross and many approved mystics. I don’t know if I’ve understood correctly. The term is mostly used in the East. I know a lot of the Catholic mystics spoke about emptying yourself of your own will (not as a faculty, as we remain with free will, but letting our will follow God’s Will totally). Is that the same, or slightly different?
When I read the Wikipedia page about it, it talks about a particular point that was condemned by a Pope… (in the Roman Catholic section). The condemned point was that Christ emptied Himself of His Divinity. Of course, that would be wrong because He always stayed God and Man and is still both God and Man in Heaven too.
My question is, the Orthodox don’t teach this condemned point do they? they just talk about the same understanding that Catholics would have of the topic? has anything been said about this?
If any Orthodox posters could help me with the Orthodox understanding that would be great… and my question for Catholics is what the Catholic Church says about this…
what would the Church say about it? I came across the term “kenosis” in some Catholic books… thanks!
