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This is a reply to post 13 by blue rose.

I question the truth of your post. For one thing, communion would never be held only once a month in an anglican church and grape juice is not used during communion. Wine is used in both the episcopal church and the anglican church. Also they use wafers much like what the catholic church uses.

One item that episcopal and anglican churches have which I miss dearly is the altar rail. It was so much more reverent to approach the altar rail and kneel humbly with outstretched hands than to line up with many other people and receive standing. So I wish the catholic churches would return the altar rails.
My friend, I do not doubt the description of Anglican by blue rose. The anglican church has lost all boundaries and some liberal churches have borrowed heavily from other protestant denomination practices, primarily to attract an incredibly aging and dwindling affiliation. I have heard in my country an anglican describe such practices, someone who is still anglican, and they describe the anglican church as chaos on this respect. I don’t imagine it is any different anywhere else.
 
Hi ArchAngeles,
Please share your experience with us when you experience your first communion in the CC, if you don’t mind. I, for one, would like to hear it.
I plan to do just that! It’s been quite an experience so far. 🙂
 
Howdy Tommy,

I’m really a revert to Catholicism. I was raised Catholic and walked away on my own accord. Later I attended several Non-Catholic communities.

One of my most beautiful experiences were the years I spent with Assemblies of God. Great people and very willing get their hands dirty to help others at a moments notice. Very kind, friendly and respectful. By what I’ve seen in your posts, you remind me a lot of them. I met one of my best friends and brother in Christ there as well. One of the things I miss about them is how open and involved we were during Worship and Prayer. If you were crying and/or seen struggling by others, they would come next to you and place a hand on your shoulders and pray with/for you. It was great for me to do that as well. Hold a hand and pray, listen to others problems and struggles and help them or be helped! A really great sense of community.

Having been raised Catholic, communion was something that really never sat well with me during my time away from the Church.

The Eucharist is a hard concept, but if even the Apostles didn’t really get it - how much less will I? 🙂

It’s an experience and a great honor and blessing.

Peace,
Thanks for the kind words about AOG, Isaiah45_9. I will say “Igualmente” toward you and all Catholics of good faith who have treated me charitably on this site, as well as some nice Lutherans.
 
Since I am not Catholic, I have never taken the Eucharist as it is known in Catholicism.

I have taken communion, but in my faith tradition it is more a symbol of Christ’s presence with us and a reminder of his supreme sacrifice for us on the cross for our sins. It is a solemn and sincere occasion, but I perceive that in the Catholic worship experience the Eucharist stands out as super special, based on repeated comments by Catholics on CAF.

I sense the sincerity of those who share this belief and I do not doubt it. However, I would like to better understand it from those of you who used to be protestants like me and what sets it apart from the typical non-Catholic church. I’ve witnessed Catholics take it but I rightfully abstained from getting in line to do so because I am not Catholic and I know I am not allowed.

Question:
Can you describe to someone who has never experienced the Catholic Eucharist before what it feels like to partake in it and put into words what it does* to *you and for you and how it compares to what you experienced when you took communion in your former protestant tradition?
Hi Tommy,
I would like to participate in your question although I have always been a Catholic yet I left the Church for quite some time and just basically maintained my friendship with Jesus thru prayer both spontaneous (mostly when I needed something although I have always praised Him for such joy His created world has brought me) and praying traditional Catholic prayers before going to sleep. I did some Scripture reading mostly the Psalms.

When I returned to practicing my faith and receiving Jesus in the Eucharist, for me, it was very powerful. It would begin when Scripture was opened to us in the readings and I would weep all thru the Gospel reading. I realized how great a sinner I was and how in need I was of His mercy and love. In listening to Scripture, my heart and mind were opened to His mercy and receiving the Eucharist (also called food for the journey and our spiritual food) I was nourished with His love - His Presence in me.

I also remember the first time that I sat in Adoration - my heart was pierced (that is what it felt like) falling to my knees knowing that I was in the presence of something far greater than anything in this world.

I found these links and books to be very helpful as I journeyed through that part of my life. And someone said in an earlier post about the eyes of faith regarding the Eucharist, yes, these eyes of faith are found in our knees.

Magnificence of the Mass:
olgcparish.net/education/true_magnificence.html

Jesus Shock by Peter Kreeft:
catholicbookandgifts.com/jesus-shock.html#.U9uh0Sx0ypo

The Real Presence:
therealpresence.org/eucharst/scrip/a6.html
 
Hi Tommy,
I would like to participate in your question although I have always been a Catholic yet I left the Church for quite some time and just basically maintained my friendship with Jesus thru prayer both spontaneous (mostly when I needed something although I have always praised Him for such joy His created world has brought me) and praying traditional Catholic prayers before going to sleep. I did some Scripture reading mostly the Psalms.

When I returned to practicing my faith and receiving Jesus in the Eucharist, for me, it was very powerful. It would begin when Scripture was opened to us in the readings and I would weep all thru the Gospel reading. I realized how great a sinner I was and how in need I was of His mercy and love. In listening to Scripture, my heart and mind were opened to His mercy and receiving the Eucharist (also called food for the journey and our spiritual food) I was nourished with His love - His Presence in me.

I also remember the first time that I sat in Adoration - my heart was pierced (that is what it felt like) falling to my knees knowing that I was in the presence of something far greater than anything in this world.

I found these links and books to be very helpful as I journeyed through that part of my life. And someone said in an earlier post about the eyes of faith regarding the Eucharist, yes, these eyes of faith are found in our knees.

Magnificence of the Mass:
olgcparish.net/education/true_magnificence.html

Jesus Shock by Peter Kreeft:
catholicbookandgifts.com/jesus-shock.html#.U9uh0Sx0ypo

The Real Presence:
therealpresence.org/eucharst/scrip/a6.html
Thank you for sharing your powerful experience, peace2u2;. I sense how much of an impact it had on you after having not participated in it in long time. I also appreciate the links to the books. I’m glad to hear you are happily back in the saddle again, so to speak. 🙂
 
Question:
Can you describe to someone who has never experienced the Catholic Eucharist before what it feels like to partake in it and put into words what it does* to *you and for you and how it compares to what you experienced when you took communion in your former protestant tradition?
I am a convert to Catholicism. I was raised Southern Baptist. I converted four years ago, along with my husband. I always had a sense of something missing that should be there when I would receive Communion at Protestant churches. Like my soul was searching for a promise that was never fulfilled. And I would read Christ’s own words about Him offering His Body and His Blood to be our spiritual food and drink, and I would wonder where was the disconnect? Was the absence in the churches, or in my heart? But whatever was responsible for the absence, I could perceive that the absence was real. Something truly was missing.

Before I received my First Holy Communion, I was terrified. I really believed in the Real Presence, and I understood that the Eucharist is not the same as Protestant Communion. I prayed often for Jesus to protect me from experiencing the reality of partaking until my mind and heart was healed enough to comprehend. Especially since my priest told me to start receiving without any more delay (my RCIA process was different), I was incredibly apprehensive for quite a while. I cried quite often after receiving for several months, and I still do cry sometimes now.
Over time, I have been able to perceive God’s hidden actions within me, healing me of old emotional and spiritual wounds, from which I had never been able to find relief in years of efforts prior to my conversion. In the moments of receiving Holy Communion, mostly I feel an awareness of Jesus’s great love and mercy. It is not a sensory awareness, but is more intellectual and spiritual.
I have been so thankful for what I have found in the Catholic Church and Her Sacraments, that I more fully desire the reunification of all Christians with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. My mother and niece have since converted to Catholicism as well. My niece made her First Holy Communion last year and my mother receives the sacraments for the first time early next week. I am so joyful for them. I know my mother is hungering for Christ in the Eucharist and I pray for her healing, too.
I encourage all Protestants who begin to have a curiosity about the Eucharist to go to Mass and pray during Holy Communion, and read what the saints have said about the Eucharist. The Eucharist is your birthright as a baptized Christian, and Jesus longs to unite Himself with you. The Catholic Church can bring you into that communion and give you what your soul longs for.
 
I am a convert to Catholicism. I was raised Southern Baptist. I converted four years ago, along with my husband. I always had a sense of something missing that should be there when I would receive Communion at Protestant churches. Like my soul was searching for a promise that was never fulfilled. And I would read Christ’s own words about Him offering His Body and His Blood to be our spiritual food and drink, and I would wonder where was the disconnect? Was the absence in the churches, or in my heart? But whatever was responsible for the absence, I could perceive that the absence was real. Something truly was missing.

Before I received my First Holy Communion, I was terrified. I really believed in the Real Presence, and I understood that the Eucharist is not the same as Protestant Communion. I prayed often for Jesus to protect me from experiencing the reality of partaking until my mind and heart was healed enough to comprehend. Especially since my priest told me to start receiving without any more delay (my RCIA process was different), I was incredibly apprehensive for quite a while. I cried quite often after receiving for several months, and I still do cry sometimes now.
Over time, I have been able to perceive God’s hidden actions within me, healing me of old emotional and spiritual wounds, from which I had never been able to find relief in years of efforts prior to my conversion. In the moments of receiving Holy Communion, mostly I feel an awareness of Jesus’s great love and mercy. It is not a sensory awareness, but is more intellectual and spiritual.
I have been so thankful for what I have found in the Catholic Church and Her Sacraments, that I more fully desire the reunification of all Christians with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. My mother and niece have since converted to Catholicism as well. My niece made her First Holy Communion last year and my mother receives the sacraments for the first time early next week. I am so joyful for them. I know my mother is hungering for Christ in the Eucharist and I pray for her healing, too.
I encourage all Protestants who begin to have a curiosity about the Eucharist to go to Mass and pray during Holy Communion, and read what the saints have said about the Eucharist. The Eucharist is your birthright as a baptized Christian, and Jesus longs to unite Himself with you. The Catholic Church can bring you into that communion and give you what your soul longs for.
Thanks for sharing your story, mommamaree. It makes a lot of sense. I witnessed my first Catholic Mass on the Saturday night of Father’s Day weekend and I logged my observations in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=889983.

I am a happy AOG member at this point in time who serves as an usher in my church.

However, I’ve always respected Catholicism and have been intrigued with it. Not ready to convert, though, or at least at this time. However, I will keep an open mind. Only God knows the future. All I know is that I love Him with all my heart and want to draw even closer to Him.

My issue is further complicated by the fact my wife is not very Catholic-friendly, mainly because most of the Catholics she’s known were very carnal and not very spiritual-acting.
I told her you can’t paint all Catholics with the same brush any more than you can members of any faith tradition. That is a whole other story, though, and not related to this thread.
 
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I am a happy AOG member at this point in time who serves as an usher in my church.

However, I’ve always respected Catholicism and have been intrigued with it. Not ready to convert, though, or at least at this time. However, I will keep an open mind. Only God knows the future. All I know is that I love Him with all my heart and want to draw even closer to Him.

My issue is further complicated by the fact my wife is not very Catholic-friendly, mainly because most of the Catholics she’s known were very carnal and not very spiritual-acting.
I told her you can’t paint all Catholics with the same brush any more than you can members of any faith tradition. That is a whole other story, though, and not related to this thread.
Thanks for this thread Tommy…👍

May I suggest for you to try going to a Eucharistic Adoration in any Catholic parish in your area. This usually takes only about 20 minutes.

youtube.com/watch?v=wr1rAv_XOWk

youtube.com/watch?v=GlME1YR0G8o
 
Thanks for sharing your story, mommamaree. It makes a lot of sense. I witnessed my first Catholic Mass on the Saturday night of Father’s Day weekend and I logged my observations in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=889983.
Interesting read. I know I should discuss it there, but I just want to make a quick point vis-à-vis your experiences: you have to weigh the negatives you observed against the very presence of Our Lord as you said:
I definitely felt God’s presence. It was palpable, especially during the Eucharist just like folks on CAF had said it would be.
Not much can trade-off against Him.
I am a happy AOG member at this point in time who serves as an usher in my church.
Have you ever heard Tim Staples’ conversion story? He was a AOG youth minister.
His long story is Jimmy Swaggart Made Me Catholic, while his shorter version is The Bible Made Me Do It

Also, you might find Scott Hahn’s description of his first mass attendance interesting. He describes it in his Conversion Story and in his book The Lamb’s Supper.
My issue is further complicated by the fact my wife is not very Catholic-friendly, mainly because most of the Catholics she’s known were very carnal and not very spiritual-acting.
Yes, that can be a problem, emotionally speaking.
G.K. Chesterton said:
“There is only one unanswerable argument against Christianity: Christians."
But she should also remember that you don’t leave Peter because of Judas.

God Bless you & your wife on your journey. I pray that the Holy Spirit guides you according to His will.
 
Well…you aroused my curiosity…isn’t the Byzantine Liturgy not in English?
For the most part, here in the US it is in English. For those Eastern Catholic parishes that have immigrant communities, they might offer both. The Ukrainian Catholic parish we visited in Minneapolis had an English and a separate Ukrainian liturgy. That’s true for the Eastern Orthodox, too.
 
For the most part, here in the US it is in English. For those Eastern Catholic parishes that have immigrant communities, they might offer both. The Ukrainian Catholic parish we visited in Minneapolis had an English and a separate Ukrainian liturgy. That’s true for the Eastern Orthodox, too.
Ok…I thought since the Orthodox had a passion for clinging to the original, that the Liturgy was still in the original…Greek (I presume)…and I thought you had some greek in you…😃
 
Ok…I thought since the Orthodox had a passion for clinging to the original, that the Liturgy was still in the original…Greek (I presume)…and I thought you had some greek in you…😃
Nope! Italian/Scot! 😃

I am sure there are plenty of Eastern Catholic/Orthodox parishes that are in their native languages. I haven’t run across too many, though.
 
Well…you aroused my curiosity…isn’t the Byzantine Liturgy not in English?
The video he posted showed the Divine Liturgy in almost all English.

The church I go to has the liturgy completely in English and most of the mebers are converts.

Basically the only churches that still have the Liturgy in all Slavonic, Church Greek, or Arabic are churches that are old, and have older members that came from the “old countries.”
 
I was raised in the so-called church of Christ. At the time they had the unusual practice of 'observing the Lord’s Supper" ever Sunday and only on Sundays. Back then most Protestants held the Lord’s Supper only four times a year.

CofC celebrations were almost defuncto as though it was an obligation that had to be done, like a checklist. There was no reverence to it that I could notice. Men chosen at random would line up at the “Lord’s Table” and one would say an extempore prayer for the matzo crackers and they would pass them through the pews and everyone would eat a piece.
Then they would come back and another man would say an extempore prayer over the shot glasses of grape juice which they would again pass and drink. Everyone would eat and drink as soon as they got the matzoth and juice. They did not do it at the same time. It was very business like and efficient, and then whole thing would be over in ten minutes. The important thing was to get to the 35 minute sermon as fast as possible.

Church of Christ worship is like that, they have a checklist. Song, done. Bible reading, done, collection, done. Lord’s Supper, done. Preaching, done. Invitation, done. It is very legalistic. There must be a good reason that they call worship services, Meetings for that is what is done with that attitude. You almost expect them to read the minutes.

My experience in the Catholic church was completely different. You could almost feel the reverence. When I was given Holy Communion the first time and after it was soecial. The Body of Christ and not just a symbol.
 
I was raised in the so-called church of Christ. At the time they had the unusual practice of 'observing the Lord’s Supper" ever Sunday and only on Sundays. Back then most Protestants held the Lord’s Supper only four times a year.

CofC celebrations were almost defuncto as though it was an obligation that had to be done, like a checklist. There was no reverence to it that I could notice. Men chosen at random would line up at the “Lord’s Table” and one would say an extempore prayer for the matzo crackers and they would pass them through the pews and everyone would eat a piece.
Then they would come back and another man would say an extempore prayer over the shot glasses of grape juice which they would again pass and drink. Everyone would eat and drink as soon as they got the matzoth and juice. They did not do it at the same time. It was very business like and efficient, and then whole thing would be over in ten minutes. The important thing was to get to the 35 minute sermon as fast as possible.

Church of Christ worship is like that, they have a checklist. Song, done. Bible reading, done, collection, done. Lord’s Supper, done. Preaching, done. Invitation, done. It is very legalistic. There must be a good reason that they call worship services, Meetings for that is what is done with that attitude. You almost expect them to read the minutes.

My experience in the Catholic church was completely different. You could almost feel the reverence. When I was given Holy Communion the first time and after it was soecial. The Body of Christ and not just a symbol.
Hi andrewstx,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds like a world of difference between the two communion experiences.

Just FYI…My brother married a nice Christian lady who is CofC and they attend there.

My wife and I have vistied their CofC church a few times out of respect to them when on vacation to their state and staying in their home and I can relate to some of your observations.

My main misgiving was that they don’t allow musical instruments, so everything is sung a cappella, which exposes my singing ability (or lack thereof :o), so whenever I’m there I don’t sing as fervently as I otherwise would because I don’t want to turn anyone’s stomach. :eek:

However, I also got the impression that the CofC has some good, strong people of faith in it who love the Lord and do their best to serve Him, like my brother and his wife.
 
I converted to Catholicism (from Methodist) in 2008 and I’m HAPPY I’m a Catholic, however, I no longer go to mass because my scruplosity and OCD is too much to bear. I no longer receive communion but I’m very happy to do my devotional studies in the safety of home. I feel God by praying to Mary more than communion. I’ve lost friends because I converted to Catholicism so I’m very wary of people and don’t trust them in general.

Maybe because I was raised Methodist I don’t miss communion? But Mary the Blessed Virgin keeps my faith and belief in Jesus, otherwise I think I’d become an atheist.

God Bless!
 
Hi Rochester,
Thanks for sharing. I’m sorry to hear you have lost friends since you became a Catholic and that you are no longer attending Mass.

I am no expert on scupulosiy at all but I see there is a section on CAF dedicated to those who have scrupulosity issues. It is for discussion and encouragement. Have you tried it?

forums.catholic-questions.org/group.php?groupid=454

May the Lord bless you in your journey of faith and walk with God.
 
Hi Rochester,
Thanks for sharing. I’m sorry to hear you have lost friends since you became a Catholic and that you are no longer attending Mass.

I am no expert on scupulosiy at all but I see there is a section on CAF dedicated to those who have scrupulosity issues. It is for discussion and encouragement. Have you tried it?

forums.catholic-questions.org/group.php?groupid=454

May the Lord bless you in your journey of faith and walk with God.
Thank you very much Tommy999!
 
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