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“So all men are drooling dolts that have no self control?” - Wifeandmomof2
No. As a woman, I realize that you may have extreme difficulty grasping this concept, but men are VISUALLY stimulated. That is the way GOD designed us, so if you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with God.
Avoiding lust is probably the single most difficult spiritual battle that Christian men have to face in our lives. Part of the reason that it is so difficult is that women are often very clueless as to the struggle that we have to go through, and therefore merciless in trying to help us. It is NOT that women are being cold-hearted, but that since women don’t experience the same visual component of receiving sexual gratification to the same degree than men do, many just don’t understand. Some women view our natural and normal mode of acquiring sexual stimulation as being twisted and perverted, since women are not sexually charged to the same degree by the same mode(visually.)
The fact that you would post a picture of a woman in a bikini on a Catholic message board, just shows how extreme your lack of understanding of men’s struggles is.
Women will sometimes dress in a sexually provocative manner, realizing that it will get looks and attention from men, but failing to realize that they(the women) are being used by the devil as tools to wage spiritual war against the souls of these men. Sadly enough, even Catholic Mass is not always a safe haven against these attacks, as many good-hearted well intentioned Catholic women just flat out don’t get it. They don’t understand how the way that they dress can lead a man into extreme levels of sexual sin, and for whatever reason feel that 1 Timothy 2:9 doesn’t apply to them.
When women pose for pictures in bikinis, the devil is intending to use those pictures to sexually entice men away from God. It is demonic warfare going on here, and part of the devil’s success lies in the fact that his tools(these women) are clueless that they are being used by the devil to attack the very souls of men.
When men try to explain this concept to women, some women will radically change their views, and if necessary, their behaviors as well. Good Christian women care about protecting their brothers in Christ, and do not want to be stumbling blocks(Romans 14:13) to them.
Other Christian women, however, when told of men’s struggles, rather than listening, absorbing, and digesting what they heard, will instead snap back with topic-diverting tactics such as name-calling, trying to bring genuine art into the discussion, or implying that we are suggesting that women totally cover themselves, like women in other cultures are forced to do. THAT attitude is NOT productive. That is taking a prideful, “I’m right and you don’t know what you are talking about” attitude, when in reality, you are totally wrong and we know EXACTLY what we are talking about, because we(men) are the ones who are experiencing the damaging effects of your(women’s) cluelessness in this spiritual battle that the devil has been waging on us, arguably, since the days of Adam and Eve. Some women often take the egocentric attitude of, “if it doesn’t bother me, then anyone who is bothered by it has problems, and it is therefore not my concern.” Well, chapter 14 of Romans would say otherwise, as would the message of 1 Corinthians 8:7-13, and 1 Corinthians 10:23-33.
I would STRONGLY recommend to you, wifeandmomof2 that you read the book “Every Man’s Battle,” by Fred Stoecker, and Steve Arterburn. It is a book designed for (primarily married) men in terms of overcoming lust. It has also shown, however, to be a real eye opener to women, who were previously totally clueless as to what men had to go through, and how damaging they, as women, were being to men’s battles in this area.
Ephesians 5:3 shows how extreme our call to sexual purity is. Women who pose for the SI Swimsuit issue are not thinking about protecting men’s sexual purity. They are instead selfishly thinking about the attention and money they will be getting. They have no clue that the devil is using them to ruin marriages, wreck homes, inspire men to rape other women, and spiritually speaking, launch attacks on the souls of genuine good Christian men who struggle in this area.
If after reading this, wifeandmomof2, you still fail to see my point, then I leave all further arguments to the intelligent women of this community. Perhaps, if one of the women here, like ShannyK, could explain to wifeandmomof 2 how you first came to understand what men have to go through, it could be very helpful, because as a man, I may not fully know how to effectively communicate this message to women. I do, KNOW, however, that I am right.
No. As a woman, I realize that you may have extreme difficulty grasping this concept, but men are VISUALLY stimulated. That is the way GOD designed us, so if you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with God.
Avoiding lust is probably the single most difficult spiritual battle that Christian men have to face in our lives. Part of the reason that it is so difficult is that women are often very clueless as to the struggle that we have to go through, and therefore merciless in trying to help us. It is NOT that women are being cold-hearted, but that since women don’t experience the same visual component of receiving sexual gratification to the same degree than men do, many just don’t understand. Some women view our natural and normal mode of acquiring sexual stimulation as being twisted and perverted, since women are not sexually charged to the same degree by the same mode(visually.)
The fact that you would post a picture of a woman in a bikini on a Catholic message board, just shows how extreme your lack of understanding of men’s struggles is.
Women will sometimes dress in a sexually provocative manner, realizing that it will get looks and attention from men, but failing to realize that they(the women) are being used by the devil as tools to wage spiritual war against the souls of these men. Sadly enough, even Catholic Mass is not always a safe haven against these attacks, as many good-hearted well intentioned Catholic women just flat out don’t get it. They don’t understand how the way that they dress can lead a man into extreme levels of sexual sin, and for whatever reason feel that 1 Timothy 2:9 doesn’t apply to them.
When women pose for pictures in bikinis, the devil is intending to use those pictures to sexually entice men away from God. It is demonic warfare going on here, and part of the devil’s success lies in the fact that his tools(these women) are clueless that they are being used by the devil to attack the very souls of men.
When men try to explain this concept to women, some women will radically change their views, and if necessary, their behaviors as well. Good Christian women care about protecting their brothers in Christ, and do not want to be stumbling blocks(Romans 14:13) to them.
Other Christian women, however, when told of men’s struggles, rather than listening, absorbing, and digesting what they heard, will instead snap back with topic-diverting tactics such as name-calling, trying to bring genuine art into the discussion, or implying that we are suggesting that women totally cover themselves, like women in other cultures are forced to do. THAT attitude is NOT productive. That is taking a prideful, “I’m right and you don’t know what you are talking about” attitude, when in reality, you are totally wrong and we know EXACTLY what we are talking about, because we(men) are the ones who are experiencing the damaging effects of your(women’s) cluelessness in this spiritual battle that the devil has been waging on us, arguably, since the days of Adam and Eve. Some women often take the egocentric attitude of, “if it doesn’t bother me, then anyone who is bothered by it has problems, and it is therefore not my concern.” Well, chapter 14 of Romans would say otherwise, as would the message of 1 Corinthians 8:7-13, and 1 Corinthians 10:23-33.
I would STRONGLY recommend to you, wifeandmomof2 that you read the book “Every Man’s Battle,” by Fred Stoecker, and Steve Arterburn. It is a book designed for (primarily married) men in terms of overcoming lust. It has also shown, however, to be a real eye opener to women, who were previously totally clueless as to what men had to go through, and how damaging they, as women, were being to men’s battles in this area.
Ephesians 5:3 shows how extreme our call to sexual purity is. Women who pose for the SI Swimsuit issue are not thinking about protecting men’s sexual purity. They are instead selfishly thinking about the attention and money they will be getting. They have no clue that the devil is using them to ruin marriages, wreck homes, inspire men to rape other women, and spiritually speaking, launch attacks on the souls of genuine good Christian men who struggle in this area.
If after reading this, wifeandmomof2, you still fail to see my point, then I leave all further arguments to the intelligent women of this community. Perhaps, if one of the women here, like ShannyK, could explain to wifeandmomof 2 how you first came to understand what men have to go through, it could be very helpful, because as a man, I may not fully know how to effectively communicate this message to women. I do, KNOW, however, that I am right.