Question for [indult] TLMers

[ABostonCatholic]

For those of you who regularly attend the TLM on Sundays, do you attend the NO for daily mass? Is it acceptable to attend both the TLM and NO on Sunday’s? If you are attending both, which liturgical calendar do you officially follow?

My wife and I will be going to the TLM on Easter. We’re looking forward to it.

 

[Unfinished]

For those of you who regularly attend the TLM on Sundays, do you attend the NO for daily mass? Is it acceptable to attend both the TLM and NO on Sunday’s? If you are attending both, which liturgical calendar do you officially follow?

My wife and I will be going to the TLM on Easter. We’re looking forward to it.

TLM on Sunday, Novus Ordo at the local parish for daily Mass.

I usually follow the NO calender because I pray the Divine Office, which follows the NO calender. Then for Sundays I switch over to the traditional calender.

And yes, you can attend both a TLM and a NO on Sunday. I hope your first TLM is a good experience.

 

[lak611]

I usually follow the NO calender because I pray the Divine Office, which follows the NO calender. Then for Sundays I switch over to the traditional calender.

The first time I attended a TLM, I was not aware of the differences in the calendar. I started to discuss the readings of the Mass with a Catholic co-worker. She said that the Gospel reading at the Mass she went to from a different chapter of John’s Gospel. That’s when I learned about the calendar differences.

 

[BobP123]

For those of you who regularly attend the TLM on Sundays, do you attend the NO for daily mass? Is it acceptable to attend both the TLM and NO on Sunday’s? If you are attending both, which liturgical calendar do you officially follow?

My wife and I will be going to the TLM on Easter. We’re looking forward to it.

On Sundays, TLM. Because of my work schedule, I’m unable to attend daily Mass. But, if I have a day off, I attend the TLM, though, on weekdays, the traffic is horrific.

I have not attended a NO Mass in years, though sometimes I have to hear parts of one while standing in the confession line. Makes it difficult to recite my Penance afterwards.

 

[Freshman88]

wow wow… there are different calendars? What are the differences? Is this calendar updated regularly or is there some kind of set pattern? anyone have information? This has really caught my attention.

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

For those of you who regularly attend the TLM on Sundays, do you attend the NO for daily mass? Is it acceptable to attend both the TLM and NO on Sunday’s? If you are attending both, which liturgical calendar do you officially follow?

My wife and I will be going to the TLM on Easter. We’re looking forward to it.

I attend both so that I am not perceived as rejecting regular Mass for a superior rite. I follow the NO calendar.

 

[Genesis315]

I am a Sunday TLM and daily NOM, and I usually stick with the current calendar of the Roman Church. That being said, I have been known to go to a TLM Feast of the Circumcision

 

[ABostonCatholic]

wow wow… there are different calendars? What are the differences? Is this calendar updated regularly or is there some kind of set pattern? anyone have information? This has really caught my attention.

When the NOM was instituted, some feasts were changed and special days, such as rogation days, removed. Some saints such as Sts. Valentine and Christopher were removed from the calendar.

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

When the NOM was instituted, some feasts were changed and special days, such as rogation days, removed. Some saints such as Sts. Valentine and Christopher were removed from the calendar.

St Valentine’s demotion was a huge mistake. As I keep on saying, the Church needs to concentrate on the young men. A Church with a committed body of young men, and no other assets, has an exciting future. A Church with beautiful buildings, lots of money, political influence, even large numbers of congregants, but with few young men, is rotting from within. How are we going to mean anything to young men if we neglect the patron of romantic love?

 

[CathMass]

I go to the Novus Ordo for daily Mass and for Masses on pilgrimages and out of town trips (unless there is a TLM available). I also go to the Novus Ordo sometimes on Saturday Night.

 

[BobP123]

wow wow… there are different calendars? What are the differences? Is this calendar updated regularly or is there some kind of set pattern? anyone have information? This has really caught my attention.

The big difference is that the NO calendar has done away with Sundays after Epiphany and Pentecost. It’s all Ordinary time now. Also the NO is on a 3-yr cycle with its Propers so following it with a missal may prove to be frustrating.

 

[MarcPekny]

A usual week for me consists of daily Mass at a local parish for the new Mass. This is currently due to Mass schedules. Our local Classical rite oratory has a daily Mass at 8:00, which is too late for me to attend and go to work.

On Saturdays, however, I usually serve at the altar for the 8:00 Low Mass and my family and I attend the Sunday high Mass at 10:00. If there are any weekday evening Masses, we attend those often as a family. It depends on a variety of things.

Despite the often lack of reverence by both the clergy and congregatoin at my Daily Mass parish, I still go because I need the Sacrament. That is the bottom line. In addition to soft Latin responses, I do incorporate, however privately, some of the Classical Mass prayers into my contemplation of the Mass. For example, I will usually read the offeretory prayers from my 1945 Missal while the gifts are being processed up and prepared. I also will usually pray the Confeteor to myself after the priest consumes the Precious Blood (as in the Classical rite). Then, at the end of Mass, I finish up with the Last Gospel (Jn 1) as the priest is processing out.

Marc P

 

[ABostonCatholic]

Thank you all for your responses. Unfortunately, the church (Holy Trinity) that has the Tridentine mass here in Boston was set to close back in 2004. It has been delayed, and the parishoners are still waiting on a final say from the archdiocese. Pray that it stays open!

 

[Unfinished]

Despite the often lack of reverence by both the clergy and congregatoin at my Daily Mass parish, I still go because I need the Sacrament. That is the bottom line.

Amen.

I usually don’t mind daily Mass at the parish around here. There is no music, the priest is usually pretty good about following the rubrics. He does weird things sometimes, but I can live with it. And I can even live with the hand holding/raising, hugging and other silly things the parishioners do. It is just so nice to start the day with Mass.

But on days when the Catholic school kids come to morning Mass, the choir director shows up to play the piano or conga drums or whatever he does. Then it is not so edifying.

 

[ABostonCatholic]

Despite the often lack of reverence by both the clergy and congregatoin at my Daily Mass parish, I still go because I need the Sacrament. That is the bottom line.
Marc P

Nevertheless, I don’t think I could ever sit through a “clown mass” without protest, unless it was the last mass I could attend on that particular Sunday!

(One time, before my wife and I were married, the priest at her parish had some lay people “give” the homily by acting it out in a dramatic fashion. Afterwards, and old man in a wheelchair wheeled up to the altar, said “It is a mortal sin for anyone but a priest or a deacon to give the homily, and you all know that!” then went back to his place in the congregation.)

 

[Unfinished]

Nevertheless, I don’t think I could ever sit through a “clown mass” without protest, unless it was the last mass I could attend on that particular Sunday!

(One time, before my wife and I were married, the priest at her parish had some lay people “give” the homily by acting it out in a dramatic fashion. Afterwards, and old man in a wheelchair wheeled up to the altar, said “It is a mortal sin for anyone but a priest or a deacon to give the homily, and you all know that!” then went back to his place in the congregation.)

I would have given that old man a high five after Mass.

 

[Pandora]

Boston Catholic, we have a meeting with Fr.O’Connell this Sunday at 1:45 to basically get the closing date. I have little faith in Cardianl O’Malley and his crew. So far we have been ignored and when they finally grace us with their presence it is only lies. In Boston Traditional Catholics who stay with Holy Mother Rome are treated like third class Catholics, it’s the back of the bus for us. After the last meeting Fr. O’Connel told me to shut up and obey.
I guess it’s Still River or Providence.
Hope you enjoy the last Eater at Holy Trinity. We have Church cleaning this Saturday morning for Easter if you want to help.

 

[BobP123]

Despite the often lack of reverence by both the clergy and congregatoin at my Daily Mass parish, I still go because I need the Sacrament. That is the bottom line.

Marc P

We all need the Sacrament, Marc.

 

[BobP123]

Nevertheless, I don’t think I could ever sit through a “clown mass” without protest, unless it was the last mass I could attend on that particular Sunday!

I agree with you. And I’m of the old school that I must be properly disposed when receiving communion. I must be free from mortal sin, have fasted, and be in positive mood. I would never receive if I’m upset or angry about my surroundings, for example.

 

[Psalm45_9]

wow wow… there are different calendars? What are the differences? Is this calendar updated regularly or is there some kind of set pattern? anyone have information? This has really caught my attention.

Yes, here’s a link to a page that has all of the Seasons, their Sundays, and the Holy Days.

mysite.verizon.net/missale/

There have been some seasons and feasts that have been dropped. Septuagesimatide has been dropped in the current calendar. This was the two-and-a-half weeks prior to Ash Wednesday, back when the fasting and penences were more severe, this season was to physically and mentally prepare the faithful for Lent. However, in the current calendar, the Paschal Triduum is its own liturgical season. The octaves of: Epiphany, Ascension, Pentecost, Corpus Christi, and The Sacred Heart have been dropped in the current calendar. The only remaining octaves are that of Christmas and Easter.

There was no season known as “Ordinary Time” back then, instead there were the Sundays after Epiphany and the Sundays After Pentecost/Trinity Sunday (Green would be worn during these periods, like today.) There was no cycle lectionary for Sundays and daily Mass, instead the readings were always the same; ie readings for the 1st Sunday in Advent were the same every year. There were also fasting days known as Rogation Days and Ember Days, where the faithful would fast and pray against natural disasters and for a plentiful harvest. These are just some differences I can name off the top of my head.