Question for Lutherans & Anglicans regarding exorcisms

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Blessings to all of you and peace be with you.

I have a quick question to ask all our Lutheran and Anglican brethen.

Do your respective communities of faith have an actual teaching or doctrine on exorcisms?

Not picking a fight, simply curious to know what your leadership teaches.

Thanks

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My fellow Lutherans have already answered clearly, but I thought I would throw in two cents from one of my favorite blogs, Steadfast Lutherans: steadfastlutherans.org/?p=12843

Particularly interesting are the comments. They mention perhaps the most infamous case of demonic possession (on which the movie ‘The Excorcist’ was based), which took place in St. Louis. LCMS clergy were, regrettably, caught unprepared and untrained to deal with it (it had been some time since many of the pastors had performed an excorcism - most troubles in the afflicted were turned out to be psychological and could be overcome with modern medical treatment). It didn’t help that the family continued to use Ouijia boards and dabble in the occult afterward… Long story short, the Lutherans sought advisement and training from the local Roman Catholic diocese to seek God’s deliverance of the boy. Anecdotal, but it answers the question, I think.
 
Every Episcopal diocese has an “on call” exorcist. It is my understanding that the Rite can be found in the Bishop’s Book.
 
ltwin said:
I think you misunderstand. I have no problem using common sense and the full range of medical and scientific knowledge available before turning to exorcism.

My comment was directed toward liberal Christians who do not believe in the existence of demons at all and **who explicitly argue that the biblical accounts of demonic possession were just the efforts of primitive people to understand physical and mental disorders. **

Yes, that is certainly an example of someone not understanding what true demon possession really is.
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I totally agree with you. They tend to approach it with “logical” scientific/medical explanation rather than face value that demons do truly exist.
 
seanman611 said:
Every Episcopal diocese has an “on call” exorcist. It is my understanding that the Rite can be found in the Bishop’s Book.
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I had no idea of this. You have to admit that they don’t go to any lengths to publicise that.

Bishops have their own BCP?
 
Nicea325 said:
Good to know. I have heard of certain denominations who reject it as an old superstition and outdated? I assuming they deny the demonic realm?
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If you read Father Amorath’s books on stories from an exorcist you will understand that there are also many Catholic priests and Bishops even who have believed it was old superstition and out dated. :eek:
 
andrewstx said:
I had no idea of this. You have to admit that they don’t go to any lengths to publicise that.

Bishops have their own BCP?
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Bishops do not have their own BCP, but they do have their own book and it is called the “Bishop’s Book.” It contains lesser known/used rites and services.

There is also a small mention of exorcism in the “Book of Occasional Services,” which can be found on Amazon, the “Bishop’s Book” is not readily available.

They don’t publicize it, but I’ve seen Episcopal priests take part in exorcisms on paranormal shows. One Episcopal priest, whose name escapes me, has dedicated his life to fighting evil and performing exorcisms/blessings. He is a younger priest, however, last I knew he was pretty ill.
 
seanman611 said:
Bishops do not have their own BCP, but they do have their own book and it is called the “Bishop’s Book.” It contains lesser known/used rites and services.

There is also a small mention of exorcism in the “Book of Occasional Services,” which can be found on Amazon, the “Bishop’s Book” is not readily available.

They don’t publicize it, but I’ve seen Episcopal priests take part in exorcisms on paranormal shows. One Episcopal priest, whose name escapes me, has dedicated his life to fighting evil and performing exorcisms/blessings. He is a younger priest, however, last I knew he was pretty ill.
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I have never heard of a Bishop’s Book (though I do know of the 1537 BISHOPS BOOK, of the CoE, which is obviously not this). Then again, there’s lots of stuff I’ve never heard of.

Do you know anything more of this book? Does it have any other title?

GKC
 
1972 Report by Robert Mortimer, Bishop of Exeter (CofE) including some rites:

(I’ve shortened the URL via Google - opens a PDF)

goo.gl/8F179N
 
GKC said:
I have never heard of a Bishop’s Book (though I do know of the 1537 BISHOPS BOOK, of the CoE, which is obviously not this). Then again, there’s lots of stuff I’ve never heard of.

Do you know anything more of this book? Does it have any other title?

GKC
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All I really know is that it exists and contains more information and even a rite of exorcism. Not much else is really known about the book and it is not readily available like other books containing lesser known/used rites. The only title that I’ve heard it go by is the “Bishop’s Book,” it’s possible that it goes by another name, but I’ve never heard of any other name.

When I asked my parish priest about the book, I was told that it is in very very limited distribution and only given to bishops.
 
seanman611 said:
All I really know is that it exists and contains more information and even a rite of exorcism. Not much else is really known about the book and it is not readily available like other books containing lesser known/used rites. The only title that I’ve heard it go by is the “Bishop’s Book,” it’s possible that it goes by another name, but I’ve never heard of any other name.

When I asked my parish priest about the book, I was told that it is in very very limited distribution and only given to bishops.
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Thanks for the info.

GKC
 
I would argue that the tide is shifting, albeit slowly and with its own problems, in the mainline of Lutheranism. The people I graduated from seminary with who don’t believe in the power of the demonic forces were far fewer in number than those that do. Granted, most people see such things indifferently, but we have significantly come back from that since the days when seminarians were snuffed out for believing in such things (if those things ever even happened). One of my professors offered a course on the theology of the demonic and gave us instruction in exorcisms, and this was at an ELCA seminary! He was one of the most conservative members of the faculty.

As for stories I am aware of, I personally know two pastors who have performed exorcisms, both of whom are ELCA. I also know that the aforementioned professor called in a pastor he knew who specialized in exorcisms to bless and exorcise the student dorm due to a number of us reported strange goings on there. I think that he was ELCA, but I might be mistaken about that.
 
norvel hays ministry has a demonology seminar every year in april

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Demonology Seminar

basic application of seeing unclean spirit cast out of people
 
Demonology Seminar

WhenMay 7 – 9, 2014

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New Life Bible Church 155 South Ocoee Street Cleveland, TN 37311 423.479.5434

Speakers: Dr. Norvel Hayes Zona Hayes-Morrow Ryan LeStrange Service Times: 10am & 7pm

i m sure you can find info on utube
 
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