Question for Muslims and Jews

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Chris LaRock:
Some of the Islam I’ve been exposed to seems to promote vengance and killing of one’s enemies. Jesus said to turn the other cheek and to love your enemies. I wonder how they reconcile these two issues.
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Yes certain sects of Islam promote this…but the Muslims I know are more the peace loving type of people…not violent.
I think it depends on how strict the sect and how the sects interpertation of the Quran is preached (for a better word).
But did not Jesus also say that fighting back at certain times under certain conditions was allowed?
 
Like when he chased out the merchants from the temple? Talk about a spam blocker, eh? 😃
 
I understand what you mean. I’m only wondering if Muslims think you should turn the other cheek when struck, rather than striking back. I’ve never heard a Muslim express such a belief.
 
Chris LaRock:
I understand what you mean. I’m only wondering if Muslims think you should turn the other cheek when struck, rather than striking back. I’ve never heard a Muslim express such a belief.
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well my Aunt is a Muslim(born and raised) and perhaps becuase she had a Catholic mother…but the point is that she does this, that is carry that mentality with her(turn the other check),…but you are right I do not see this expressed by Muslims…perhaps one (Muslim) will post here and we would know.😃
 
**Yes they do seem to be avoiding the thread…😦 **

In regards to turning the other check…
*Forgiving each other, even forgiving one’s enemies is one of the most important Islamic teaching.In the Qur’an Allah has described the Believers as “those who avoid major sins and acts of indecencies and when they are angry they forgive.” (al-Shura 42:37) Later in the same Surah Allah says, “The reward of the evil is the evil thereof, but whosoever forgives and makes amends, his reward is upon Allah.” (al-Shura 42:40) In another place the Qur’an says, “If you punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, indeed it is better for the patient. Endure you patiently. Your patience is not except through the help of Allah (al-Nahl 16:126-127)
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People are also avoiding my forum too. 😦

I’ve noticed that many religions say nice things of Jesus, while denying his diety and refusing to follow his teachings. It’s a common thread within all non-christian religions.
 
Chris LaRock:
People are also avoiding my forum too. 😦

I’ve noticed that many religions say nice things of Jesus, while denying his diety and refusing to follow his teachings. It’s a common thread within all non-christian religions.
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Your forum???:confused:
 
The link is in my signature. (looking for mods/members)

I’d like to compare the bible and the Koran. The versions of the koran I’ve read read similar to the king james bible.
 
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Karin:
If some people actually read what people wrote these type of misunderstandings would not occur!

ChrisG stated…Muslim sources state in those books that they see the books of the bible as being inspired by God, but that they have been altered by man. **They contend that these supposed alterations rendered the bible as untrustworthy, and therefore credit the Koran as being the true, unperverted word of God.
**“Muslims acknowledge all scriptures to be the word of God, but they often assume that previous scriptures have been corrupted or abrogated and hence are no longer trustworthy.”
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Thank you, but yes I have read what he stated earlier. The point of contention here is whether or not Muslims did consider the Bible to be God’s word, and flat out the answer is no. No Muslim I know of will even say that, or else he would not be called a Muslim. They do say that the Bible was altered–something that I never contested–but as to Chris’ point that Muslims say the Bible is God’s word, I will disagree on that one based on my discussions with Muslims.
 
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Milliardo:
Thank you, but yes I have read what he stated earlier. The point of contention here is whether or not Muslims did consider the Bible to be God’s word, and flat out the answer is no. No Muslim I know of will even say that, or else he would not be called a Muslim. They do say that the Bible was altered–something that I never contested–but as to Chris’ point that Muslims say the Bible is God’s word, I will disagree on that one based on my discussions with Muslims.
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Do you not know how to read???

He NEVER SAYS THAT THE BIBLE IS GOD’S WORD… AND PLEASE READ CAREFULLY HERE …HE STATES IT IS INSIPIRED BY GOD & ALTERED BY MAN!
**(**ChrisG stated…Muslim sources state in those books that they see the books of the bible as being inspired by God, but that they have been altered by man)
 
Chris LaRock:
Does Islam and all those faiths you mentioned teach the importance of being born again? Check out the following site:

www.thewayofthemaster.com
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I would say it depends on how you look at things. All of those faiths suggest that there is a moment of acceptance of God and His message. That at this point a person takes on a new/different life from the one they had before. Spiritual transformation is a feature of all of them. Matter of fact, depending on the translation, the term “born again” actually appears in the Qur’an:

Hereafter, with a second birth will God cause them to be born again; for God is Almighty.

(The Qur’an (Rodwell tr), Sura 29)

So, I would say, yes.
 
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