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you made a claim the surahdid that. But you cited no proof. It says in 9th surah that God forgives. Is that what you were referring to?
could you show me this please?

and who does allah forgive,moslems? or does he say non moslem?remember koran is for moslems not non moslims…

when they say you are forgiven ,what they really mean is in thier eyes every body is born moslem,thats why they call you a revert instead of a convert…it dawah they are practicing…
 
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I also think it should be pointed out that we are talking at the very most perhaps 100,000 people in the streets as opposed to 1,500.000,000 muslims.
This is just delusional. Name another time you saw 100,000 radical Christians/Jews/Hindus/Sihks marching, crying violence to others, and rioting?

And this claim that it is a small minority is hogwash. Egypt voted in the Muslim Brotherhood into power. That is by definition a majority.
 
could you show me this please?

and who does allah forgive,moslems? or does he say non moslem?remember koran is for moslems not non moslims…

when they say you are forgiven ,what they really mean is in thier eyes every body is born moslem,thats why they call you a revert instead of a convert…it dawah they are practicing…
9;91 Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
 
you made a claim the surahdid that. But you cited no proof. It says in 9th surah that God forgives. Is that what you were referring to?
Sure, I’m referring to that, and not the command to kill the infidels (except when you have an opportunity to convert them). :rolleyes:
 
No, it doesn’t. You don;t think there can be a million radicals in the whole of the middle east?
Sorry, those numbers were just for one country, not the “whole of the middle east”.
I work with muslims. I have friends who are muslim. I read the Koran so we could have discussions. The guys you see on the news are radicals. It is not indicative of what true Muslims are all about.
I cannot deny that the number of Muslims in the world far outshadows those who are participating in the violence. But this is normally true for any cause. The activists always get the attention but they usually have deeper support than just themselves. Look at the “occupy” movement. How many participate(d) in that? Then take into consideration those who support what they are doing. Many, many more. I believe the hatred for Amercia runs deeper than just those on the streets. I certainly do not condemn all Muslims and believe that most are just people who want to live their lives just as the rest of us do. It would sure be nice to hear a little more condemnation from the Muslim community, especially in our own country where they have freedom of speech and religion, the very things they deny to others in the countries they control.
 
you say that you have read the koran?then you say that its not what moslims are all about?you get some very good/nice moslems indeed…but dont let islam fool you.

ok then,how about the first moslem,the prophet the one who moslems copy and follow every act and word…was he a true/good moslem?

im sorry but have you read the hadith?its no good just reading the koran… and islam/sharia should be practiced by moslems or they are going against the prophet and allah.that means they are bad moslems…

what you have said is like this i got told the other month…

remember islam is an ideology…95% of the kkk are not radicals… now think about it along the lines of the islamic ideology…if you cant see the different side of the same cion then heaven help us…

what they say and do to you in front of you has no bearing on what is in thier hearts,behind closed doors…

i think the west is being told a big big lie about islam/sharia…

one thing you get from being catholic is the rules are there and they dont change,islam is a deceiver always has been always will be…

if you want to talk wine lets take it back to the grape,the saying goes…

go back to mohamed and what he has done/said in the name of his god,the the same for Jesus…

can yo you not see there are no human rights for any body out side islam ? its a moslem only club,no body else…

and by the way,why have you brought up the inquisition?thats not what the OP asked…let islam stand up on its own. what you have stated is for another topic…that was not the question asked…

i better shut up… i could get thrown of the site…
Why so much fear and hate in your heart? Certianly not christian indeed. The arguments you have been making are identical to the same arguments made against Catholicism. If Islam is so dangerous and such a threat why are not all 1.5 BILLION in the streets (that’s is 1/4 the population of the world by the way). My doctor is Egyptian and Muslim he is horrified at what is happening and angry that the US is not doing anything to stop this, hmmmm must be a bad muslim for not supporting a bunch of radical fools.
 
Why so much fear and hate in your heart? Certianly not christian indeed. The arguments you have been making are identical to the same arguments made against Catholicism. If Islam is so dangerous and such a threat why are not all 1.5 BILLION in the streets (that’s is 1/4 the population of the world by the way). My doctor is Egyptian and Muslim he is horrified at what is happening and angry that the US is not doing anything to stop this, hmmmm must be a bad muslim for not supporting a bunch of radical fools.
why do you think ive got fear and where have i shown hate? im neather live in fear or have hate…did Jesus hold these things when he confronted the pharisees and scribes??? no he did not.really people cannot talk about the obvious without being beaten with this islamaphobe stick… im not talking nonsence im talking history repeating itself in your face happenings and what the European convention says about sharia…it does not run parallel with human rights…

people have to start to do there home work in the west,but then again who can you question when you get beaten with the islamaphobe stick…
 
Sure, I’m referring to that, and not the command to kill the infidels (except when you have an opportunity to convert them). :rolleyes:
Ah…you are referring to the Bible now, where God told David to kill and told Joshua to kill and told Moses to kill…I thought you were talking about the Koran
 
you have not answered my question.you use the koran only to suggest such things… and that is for moslem only not the non moslem…
Sure I did. You asked me where in Surah 9 it said God is forgiving. I showed you
 
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I also think it should be pointed out that we are talking at the very most perhaps 100,000 people in the streets as opposed to 1,500.000,000 muslims.
I agree. I think we ,as americans, forget that the whole world does not think like we do. Many of these countries don’t get taught real history and science. My husband, who is muslim, never read a history or biology book until he went to college in his 30’s in the US. I had to prove to him thatWWII did happen and killed so many people.
We are fighting to educate people and get rid of ignorence, the taliban needs ignorant people. They depend on ignorence to recrute.
 
This is just delusional. Name another time you saw 100,000 radical Christians/Jews/Hindus/Sihks marching, crying violence to others, and rioting?

And this claim that it is a small minority is hogwash. Egypt voted in the Muslim Brotherhood into power. That is by definition a majority.
Sports events, LA riots, you don’t need to got back very far into history.
 
why do you think ive got fear and where have i shown hate? im neather live in fear or have hate…did Jesus hold these things when he confronted the pharisees and scribes??? no he did not.really people cannot talk about the obvious without being beaten with this islamaphobe stick… im not talking nonsence im talking history repeating itself in your face happenings and what the European convention says about sharia…it does not run parallel with human rights…

people have to start to do there home work in the west,but then again who can you question when you get beaten with the islamaphobe stick…
You talk of sharia but most muslims do not want this. I am currious to know how many muslims you know to base your beliefs upon (beyond just suras taken out of context etc) I taught english in Jordan and Bahrain for a number of years. I have numerous Muslim friends here and abroad. Our Cathederal in Whitehorse has lent space to the muslim community while they raise money to build their own mosque and they come and help out at the soup kitchen we run and the winter clothing drive for the homeless. None of them want Sharia law here or anywhere in the world.

When I served in the US military my best friend was muslim - he gave his life in the line of duty for his country. Thousands of others serve right now and some have given, in the words of President Lincoln “the last full measure of devotion.” How do thier actions come close to what you are claiming is the “truth” about Islam?

Please meet with real muslims before you condem all for the actions and twisted beliefs of a few. As Catholics we decry the uninformed attacks upon our faith is it so much to ask that we do not do the same to others? I prefer to love my neighbors than to fear them out of ignorance.
 
Sports events, LA riots, you don’t need to got back very far into history.
bingo.

Look at the **** that happened in New Orleans after katrina…looting, killing, raping…shooting at helicopters bringing food…
 
You talk of sharia but most muslims do not want this. I am currious to know how many muslims you know to base your beliefs upon (beyond just suras taken out of context etc) I taught english in Jordan and Bahrain for a number of years. I have numerous Muslim friends here and abroad. Our Cathederal in Whitehorse has lent space to the muslim community while they raise money to build their own mosque and they come and help out at the soup kitchen we run and the winter clothing drive for the homeless. None of them want Sharia law here or anywhere in the world.

When I served in the US military my best friend was muslim - he gave his life in the line of duty for his country. Thousands of others serve right now and some have given, in the words of President Lincoln “the last full measure of devotion.” How do thier actions come close to what you are claiming is the “truth” about Islam?

Please meet with real muslims before you condem all for the actions and twisted beliefs of a few. As Catholics we decry the uninformed attacks upon our faith is it so much to ask that we do not do the same to others? I prefer to love my neighbors than to fear them out of ignorance.
awesome post
 
bingo.

Look at the **** that happened in New Orleans after katrina…looting, killing, raping…shooting at helicopters bringing food…
this is the whole point.lololol.

you realy are the works…

what happened in those places are not commands from Jesus who got the message from God…

but the moslems who acted like they do are only answering what mohamed the messenger from allah said to do.
 
this is the whole point.lololol.

you realy are the works…

what happened in those places are not commands from Jesus who got the message from God…

but the moslems who acted like they do are only answering what mohamed the messenger from allah said to do.
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this is the whole point.lololol.

I am glad you got the point. People are the same everywhere.

you realy are the works…

Thank you. I know it has been difficult for you to understand that radicals are bad everywhere.

what happened in those places are not commands from Jesus who got the message from God…

Nor are they in Muslim land. They are lsitening to leaders who tell them what to do.
 
You talk of sharia but most muslims do not want this. I am currious to know how many muslims you know to base your beliefs upon (beyond just suras taken out of context etc) I taught english in Jordan and Bahrain for a number of years. I have numerous Muslim friends here and abroad. Our Cathederal in Whitehorse has lent space to the muslim community while they raise money to build their own mosque and they come and help out at the soup kitchen we run and the winter clothing drive for the homeless. None of them want Sharia law here or anywhere in the world.

When I served in the US military my best friend was muslim - he gave his life in the line of duty for his country. Thousands of others serve right now and some have given, in the words of President Lincoln “the last full measure of devotion.” How do thier actions come close to what you are claiming is the “truth” about Islam?

Please meet with real muslims before you condem all for the actions and twisted beliefs of a few. As Catholics we decry the uninformed attacks upon our faith is it so much to ask that we do not do the same to others? I prefer to love my neighbors than to fear them out of ignorance.
i come from a place were the moslems are about 20% of the population of my town…
do you think i speak from not knowing what ive said has come from moslems??really you want to pay attention to what you say.

i do work for them and i have moslem friends…they tell me what im talking about…they are ruthless on the whole…im not talking about the minority who are good /kind/thoughtfull.im talking about the majority…

i have a moslem friend who is a police man he gives his life for his country too.but that does not stop him knowing the truth about islam…

what happens to apostates in islam?what happens if they are found to bad mouth other moslems in public?thats why they go in hiding for apostasy and why they dont go out in numbers in condemnation on the atrocities in the name of islam…

i guess you can only ask the coptics, Lebanese, Sudanese,and the rest of all the countries that have been took by the sword of islam what happens when you sleep walk and believe the rubbish that the dhimmies teach you about it.

you will find out soon enough when there numbers grow in goverment,dont bother about the population…that can be over come…
 
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Originally Posted by MarySweet
Sports events, LA riots, you don’t need to got back very far into history.


that was the post i was meant to reply to with TexanKnight post.it did not come up.

could you now answer it?
 
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