Question for Orthodox? About woman priest?

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the Orthodox Churches look aghast at any one worshiping who is not of their ethnicity (Greeks-Russiand et al) could not imagine them having female priests-

The Antiochan Orthodox appear to be the most welcoming- but only a :mad:little bit better-they are ethnic Churches and likely will remain so-not in this millenium will we see female Orthodox prests (=======
Odd, the Greeks at my parish have no problem worshipping with our red-headed priest, who is most definitely not Greek.
 
the Orthodox Churches look aghast at any one worshiping who is not of their ethnicity (Greeks-Russiand et al) could not imagine them having female priests-

The Antiochan Orthodox appear to be the most welcoming- but only a :mad:little bit better-they are ethnic Churches and likely will remain so-not in this millenium will we see female Orthodox prests (=======
Funny, the priest of my greek orthodox parish is an american, there are chinese worshippers in the church, there are White Kiwis in the church and greeks to top it off. You should tell them they’re supposed to be racist and not allow the priest to continue serving.
 
the Orthodox Churches look aghast at any one worshiping who is not of their ethnicity (Greeks-Russiand et al) could not imagine them having female priests-

The Antiochan Orthodox appear to be the most welcoming- but only a :mad:little bit better-they are ethnic Churches and likely will remain so-not in this millenium will we see female Orthodox prests (=======
Odd, one priest at my Orthodox mission is an Irish former-Catholic, and another is an American former-Episcopalian. I suppose the number of Americanized non-racist Carpatho-Rusyns should throw both of our priests out.
 
What an ignorant post.

Signed a member of the Orthodox Church of Scottish ethnicity.
Part Scottish, part Swedish, 100% Aussie here. Sometimes considered more Greek than the Greeks in my very Greek parish.
 
you confused racism with preference -in a 10 mile radius we have a Serbian Orthodox church (presumably for Serbians) 2 Greek Orthodox Churches (Cathederal in Tarpon Springs) 1 Armenian Orthodox Church ( presumably for Armeinians) and 1 Ruthenian Orthodox Church-their ethnicity is stated in their name

now we do have a Coptic Church that does not specify ethnicity but since the word Copt = Egyptian you can pretty much figure who goes there

we do not have any Irish Catholic Church and a Italian Catholic Church or African American Church or any such: this is the case in the Episcopal Churches

Presumably people would attend the Greek Church to hear the Mass in their native language or to be around people with shared ethnicity or for tradition

The truth sometimes is unpleasant
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You’re confusing jurisdiction with an ethnic preference.

And yes, you very much do have Catholic Churches with such ethnic names. I’m guessing that “Ruthenian Orthodox Church” you are seeing is actually a “Ruthenian Greek Catholic Church” - not an Orthodox Church at all but part of your Catholic Church.

Your comment about the Coptic Church suggests you haven’t actually done any research and you are just judging the churches based on their names. This is a tiring habit that some of you have.
 
Odd, one priest at my Orthodox mission is an Irish former-Catholic, and another is an American former-Episcopalian. I suppose the number of Americanized non-racist Carpatho-Rusyns should throw both of our priests out.
I recently attended an Antiochan Divine Liturgy led by a Jewish priest.
If ethnicity mattered, that would never happen in a million years.
 
you confused racism with preference -in a 10 mile radius we have a Serbian Orthodox church (presumably for Serbians) 2 Greek Orthodox Churches (Cathederal in Tarpon Springs) 1 Armenian Orthodox Church ( presumably for Armeinians) and 1 Ruthenian Orthodox Church-their ethnicity is stated in their name

now we do have a Coptic Church that does not specify ethnicity but since the word Copt = Egyptian you can pretty much figure who goes there

we do not have any Irish Catholic Church and a Italian Catholic Church or African American Church or any such: this is the case in the Episcopal Churches

Presumably people would attend the Greek Church to hear the Mass in their native language or to be around people with shared ethnicity or for tradition

The truth sometimes is unpleasant
:cool:
:rolleyes: Our 100% American priest (of as vanilla a “British Isles” heritage as one might imagine possible) conducts the DL in English…in our Russian church. A quick search, though, reveals Episcopal services nearby conducted entirely in Spanish…huh, whaddayaknow.:cool:
 
the Orthodox Church in the USA (CHurches) is quite small -the majority of Orthodox are in their respective countries -would seem to be quite ethnic

however in the English speaking world I will keep an eye out for Red headed Scottish Orthodox Priests

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I don’t think you’ve thought about what you’ve just said.

By your standards of “ethnic” the majority of Catholics in their respective countries are quite ethnic.

In Ireland for example, most Catholic Churches are attended by the Irish, and in Italy, the seats are filled with Italians. A similar thing happens in Poland.

So why is it bad that the majority of Orthodox Churches in Russia are attended by Russians, or in Greece by Greeks?
 
you are correct-the Ruthenian Church of St. Terese is indeed a Byzantine catholic church -

I recall my post-

I did however go to one service at the Coptic Church -99% were Arabs of one variety or the other - lovely quite long service ( about 2 hours) it was for a funeral of a Doctor originally from Egypt-service was very different from typical Episcopal Service or Catholic masses that I have attended

sorry if I offended anyone:eek:
 
the Orthodox Church in the USA (CHurches) is quite small -the majority of Orthodox are in their respective countries -would seem to be quite ethnic

however in the English speaking world I will keep an eye out for Red headed Scottish Orthodox Priests

😃
Father John Raffan is a Scottish Orthodox priest serving at St Andrews in Athens, Greece.
The Liturgy is in English.
 
now we do have a Coptic Church that does not specify ethnicity but since the word Copt = Egyptian you can pretty much figure who goes there
I’m 1/40th of the local Coptic Orthodox community, and have never been to Egypt and have no Egyptian blood. Ditto the Mexicans, Scots-Irish, American, Jordanians, Armenians, Sudanese, and Ethiopians we have had worship with us on various occasions. In the church at which I was baptized, St. Mark COC in Scottsdale, there are likewise Anglo-Americans, Mexicans, Iraqi Assyrians, Egyptians, black Africans (I’m assuming they were Ethiopians based on dress, but I didn’t get a good look at them or get to speak with them before or after my baptism), etc. Virtually every kind of person that you could find in a Catholic or Episcopal church, you can find in a Coptic one. “Coptic” has to do with the historical roots of the Church (no different than any of the mainline churches in that regard, as there was a time not terribly long ago on the worldwide Christian timescale when “Episcopalian”, “Lutheran”, etc. stood in for virtually one ethnocultural identity, or at best a group of related identities, i.e., Western and Northern European people/whites), but it has less and less to do with its makeup every day. In some places, like Bolivia, the native Orthodox Church is Coptic in its liturgical norms, Orthodox in its faith, and 100% non-Egyptian, save for the handful of priests who brought the faith to the country in the first place. (And it’s not just a handful of curious fetishizers of the exotic, either; from people I’ve met who have served there, I learned that over 400 attend services weekly in the cathedral in La Paz alone, with many, many more in the countryside and other major cities.)

And of course in America the liturgy is entirely or mostly in English (where I attend it is 80% English, though I am currently the only native speaker who attends regularly), just like how in Bolivia and Mexico (and now or very soon Costa Rica, glory be to God) it is in Spanish, in South Africa/Zambia/Kenya/etc. it is in English and the local language, etc. These are surely not the methods of a church that is primarily or even secondarily interested in preserving some hallowed ethnicity. You are writing out of ignorance.
The truth sometimes is unpleasant
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Not nearly as unpleasant as your spreading ignorance and misinformation about a faith that you know nothing about.

“Dios ten piedad de nostros”, chanted for Vespers by HG Bishop Anba Youssef, from the Coptic Church in Bolivia

Sincerely (hey, why not…everyone else has done it),

An Anglo-American/Mexican mutt who has been accepted into the Coptic Orthodox Church the same as literally every other person recognized by it as holding the Orthodox faith in the history of all Christianity (Roman/Western saints, including bishops, too)
 
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