Question for our LDS friends

[RebeccaJ]

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This is interesting. Never heard it explained this way. So does that make Joseph Smith the final and permanent peak? He did make claim that he accomplished something Jesus couldn’t even do; that is, keeping the church from apostatizing.

Mormonism, being an end times cult (cult as in great devotion to an idea), believes itself to be the final peak in the larger plan of making intelligence into spirits, spirits into humans, humans into gods.

 

[Irish_Kathy]

My thought is that the apostasy could not have happened because God didn’t abandon us. We abandon Him by sin, but He doesn’t “leave or forsake” us because of His covenant love for us. He nether leaves us or forsakes us.

 

[batman1973]

It is interesting to note, only the Utah LDS church uses the Latter-day Saints. The others use
Latter Day Saints. i.e. The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, The Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints; The Original Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And all of them, Utah included call themselves Latter Day Saints. So, “LDS doctrine” can mean different things. I’ve been a member of the Utah LDS, The RLDS, and the Remnant LDS. I can assure you, Utah LDS “doctrine” is a unique beast even to other professing Latter Day Saints.

 

[Telstar]

The LDS teaching is a continuity of apostasy and restoration. As a Mormon, it was described to me as a wave, the peaks being eras of righteousness, which declines in apostasy to wickedness, a restoration occurs, and peaks at righteousness again, to inevitably a decline in apostasy. Rinse. Repeat.

Abraham was a peak. So was Jesus.

This is interesting. Never heard it explained this way. So does that make Joseph Smith the final and permanent peak? He did make claim that he accomplished something Jesus couldn’t even do; that is, keeping the church from apostatizing.

It is interesting to note, only the Utah LDS church uses the Latter-day Saints. The others use
Latter Day Saints. i.e. The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, The Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints; The Original Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And all of them, Utah included call themselves Latter Day Saints. So, “LDS doctrine” can mean different things. I’ve been a member of the Utah LDS, The RLDS, and the Remnant LDS. I can assure you, Utah LDS “doctrine” is a unique beast even to other professing Latter Day Saints.

It would appear that js was wrong, yet again, when he said that he accomplished something that even Jesus couldn’t do, huh?

 

[SteveVH]

It would appear that js was wrong, yet again, when he said that he accomplished something that even Jesus couldn’t do, huh?

And they have only been around for little over 150 years. Wait another 150 years and see if any of them are still around.

 

[TexanKnight]

My thought is that the apostasy could not have happened because God didn’t abandon us. We abandon Him by sin, but He doesn’t “leave or forsake” us because of His covenant love for us. He nether leaves us or forsakes us.

exactly. For mormonism to be true, Jesus MUST be a liar and very weak an very cruel

 

[RebeccaJ]

This is interesting. Never heard it explained this way. So does that make Joseph Smith the final and permanent peak? He did make claim that he accomplished something Jesus couldn’t even do; that is, keeping the church from apostatizing.

also in contrast, Catholic teaching is one of the continuity of God’s love. While we are fickle and struggle in maintaining fidelity, God does not.

it goes to our understanding of the immutability of God. God"s love is perfect and does not diminish or grow based on our behavior or belief.