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Jake_Ellison
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Fair enough, thanks for your thoughts. Its not really a decideable argument anyway. All I’ll say in response, is that energy doesn’t really have to be transformed because matter is energy. As for what kicked off the whole thing, your guess is as good as mine, I’ll give you that.Alright, with your last post I can see that we are pretty much on the same page; it’s just a matter of degree. You agree that SOMETHING eternal most likely had to exist before the beginning of the universe. And I’d say you’re right… I cannot prove to you that something was God, but at the same time I don’t see how “energy” could have acted to change the status quo. It is my opinion that God makes more sense because God is able to think as well as exist. If energy were all that existed, why didn’t it just continue to exist in the same form forever? What induced the creation of matter? Energy in the sense I think of has to be transformed by something. It doesn’t transform itself.
I know there is a lot of speculation here, and if you someday prove me wrong about God then I will come to terms with it. But in the meantime I am going to keep heading further down the road I’m on which I think will lead me to Catholicism. I know this path will make me a better and more disciplined person and in a sense that’s all that matters.
Anyways, I am going to wish you luck and close this discussion. I will read the reply you post, but I am not going to have much time to respond now that school is kicking into high gear.
Jessica
However, I think I have a problem with the word eternal. We just can’t understand a pre universe ‘time’ and even the word eternal doesn’t quite cut it. I mean, even eternal suggests time. I don’t see this energy constant sitting there for all eternity and then suddenly changing. Even if time existed the concept of an eternal past leading to a fixed point in that time seems crazy. If it was eternally in one state, then there was no reason to change. Assuming time of course which didn’t exist, so eternal dosen’t work anyway.
So I’m more inclined to believe in some kind of series of universes, or even a multiverse theory makes more sence. But I don’t think the big bang was the ultimate begining. I think there is more that we may never know. Maybe we will, but not for a long time.
Good luck to you too with your school. Don’t worry about a responce if you don’t have time, I think the only thing we can really do is agree to disagree over God anyway.