Question For Protestants.

[Cordelil]

My only guess is laziness I didn’t know any hindus or muslims, never saw JH’s. I am friends with a few atheists and they are quite content where they are spritually after many debates.
I do live in the South, and a lot of times many Christians like to stay in their own comfort zone, so Catholics I guess are an easy target.
LIZ/QUO

I have noticed that Catholics are easy targets for a variety of reasons. One can go to any evangelical church here in Southern California and find at least a minority of the congregants are former Catholics. One of the big complaints that former Catholics have is this “never having a personal relationship with Christ.” I don’t get it but that’s what they say.

I do agree with many of their complaints. Mass is boring; yes, it can be, especially when the priest is clueless on how to deliver a homily. Another is the one of having a bad experience with the clergy. The evidence is clear on this with the massive deplorable sex scandal in the American Catholic Church. Also, I have noticed another shortcoming over the years: clergy who abuse alcohol and nothing is done about it.

That said I am sticking with Rome. It’s the only church I know and the only one I want to know.

John

 

[elvisman]

Those who evangelize to Roman Catholics believe that RCs are just as unsaved as pagans, atheists, and moslems, and therefore need to repent as much as these do.
Actually, RCs are in deeper, because they believe themselves to be Christians, but in fact are not.
Please note that I am PRESENTING a view, not claiming it as my own.

Is this your point of view?

 

[elvisman]

Those who evangelize to Roman Catholics believe that RCs are just as unsaved as pagans, atheists, and moslems, and therefore need to repent as much as these do.
Actually, RCs are in deeper, because they believe themselves to be Christians, but in fact are not.
Please note that I am PRESENTING a view, not claiming it as my own.

Is this your point of view?

 

[wisdomseeker]

lizferg;3785535:

My only guess is laziness I didn’t know any hindus or muslims, never saw JH’s. I am friends with a few atheists and they are quite content where they are spritually after many debates.
I do live in the South, and a lot of times many Christians like to stay in their own comfort zone, so Catholics I guess are an easy target.
LIZ[/QUO

I have noticed that Catholics are easy targets for a variety of reasons. One can go to any evangelical church here in Southern California and find at least a minority of the congregants are former Catholics. One of the big complaints that former Catholics have is this “never having a personal relationship with Christ.” I don’t get it but that’s what they say.

I do agree with many of their complaints. Mass is boring; yes, it can be, especially when the priest is clueless on how to deliver a homily. Another is the one of having a bad experience with the clergy. The evidence is clear on this with the massive deplorable sex scandal in the American Catholic Church. Also, I have noticed another shortcoming over the years: clergy who abuse alcohol and nothing is done about it.

That said I am sticking with Rome. It’s the only church I know and the only one I want to know.

John

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[Rightlydivide]

Where you involved in that video?

No I dont know Kirk Cameron. Its just an example of street evangelism done very well. The real key is just being nice and not picking someone really busy. We do door to door to but its hard to bother someone.
The pay off is you really see changed lives. Mine was changed because somene talked to me. He was an old friend of sorts but certainly he took a real risk.
I just think street preaching is often done wrong but sometimes it is done well.

 

[ralphinal]

No I dont know Kirk Cameron. Its just an example of street evangelism done very well. The real key is just being nice and not picking someone really busy. We do door to door to but its hard to bother someone.
The pay off is you really see changed lives. Mine was changed because somene talked to me. He was an old friend of sorts but certainly he took a real risk.
I just think street preaching is often done wrong but sometimes it is done well.

I agree 100%. It seems like all to often, the street preachers start from an agressive position: you are going to hell, etc. The most effective ones seem to work like a conversation: hi. How are you? Can we talk about tomorrow? Not being deceptive, but not closing the doors before you knock.

It is like the anti-abortion protests. It seems like the crazy folks who call the poor women “whores” have less effect than the kind one who talk about life and pain or the ones who simply pray.

Personally, I think that it is one reason Jesus told us not to judge. We cannot bless if we are cursing

 

[LutheranDK]

Is this your point of view?

I think it was rather obvious from the last line the quote from my post, that it is not my view.
What? I can’t present a view on a matter without having to agree with it?

 

[ralphinal]

I think it was rather obvious from the last line the quote from my post, that it is not my view.
What? I can’t present a view on a matter without having to agree with it?

Dude, as a Lutheran, if you disagree, you are supposed to nail why you disagree to the door of the Church on the eve of a holy day.

Man, do they not teach manners anymore

 

[Syele]

My protestant, fundamentalist, and evangelical brothers and sisters in Christ. I have a question for you. Why do some of you deny that catholics are part of the proverbial choir.

Because many “Catholics” are not part of the proverbial choir. While I doubt many of the Catholics I speak of hang out on this forum (since they’d soon learn they are wrong), it is a LARGE % that have no idea what they believe or why. They think that cause their parents are Catholic they are too. Or cause someone baptized them as an infant that they are saved forever or that at judgment their sins will be “weighed” against their good deeds on some sort of divine scale and the heaviest part determines heaven or hell.

Then you go on trying to " convert " catholics to " OSAS " christianity.

I don’t and never have. If you think all your protestant, fundamentalist, and evangelical brothers and sisters in Christ believe OSAS you need to get a better understanding of them.

Why preach to the choir, when REAL lost souls are out there? ( athiests, muslims, pagans ) Spend all your evangelization efforts on those who ACTUALLY need to be led to Christ. * scratches head * It seems some people are more interested in " converting " catholics then saving all those other people from real condemnation.
Que sera sera. Please explain someone if you can, why this happens.

Surely you don’t think the people I described above are not real lost souls? And as someone else said its worse for them… they think they have it all right already!

 

[LutheranDK]

Dude, as a Lutheran, if you disagree, you are supposed to nail why you disagree to the door of the Church on the eve of a holy day.

Man, do they not teach manners anymore

LOL - point taken…now the problem remains: Which church should I nail it to? There’s quite a number of churches in the world…better get started

 

[elvisman]

I think it was rather obvious from the last line the quote from my post, that it is not my view.
What? I can’t present a view on a matter without having to agree with it?

Yes, you can. I was just asking.
**What - I can’t ask a question? YEEESH!! **

 

[ralphinal]

LOL - point taken…now the problem remains: Which church should I nail it to? There’s quite a number of churches in the world…better get started

Well, you can blaim your boy Martin for that one, too.

I guess to nail it to the door that does the offending in question.

THat gives me a cool idea for a website. The “Virtual Door” site. For a small fee, you can nail your grevenses to a virtual door for all to see. I think I am going to work on that