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Did the medicine she prescribe contain hormones? I have yet to learn of a non-hormonal method for resolving hormonal imbalances which is why I ask.
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Maria1212
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Nope. For PolyCystic Ovarian Syndrome, which is what I have, I took the medication Metformin, which is actually a drug for diabetics. PCOS causes a form of insulin resistance, and somehow insulin in tied into all the other hormones. So fixing that made everything else start to come back into balance, including my estrogen and progesterone levels. Sounds crazy, but it works. That’s what I was pointing out, there are actual treatments for many conditions out there, not just covering up the symptoms with BCP.
 
There are many many Doctors who will say that there is no reason needed for the birth control pill. find them at www.omsoul.com

Those who say side effects are blown out of proportion, that may be true for you, but what about the people who have died or who have been made sterile for the rest of their lives?

No one here is saying that a medical treatment is immoral, just because the side effects is a contraceptive.

The truth is, the BCP can be an abortive.

The truth is is that is a “pill” that makes the body stop working the way it is supposed to…it only makes it appear that things are ok.

In no other situation, would a person take a pill to make their heart stop, their brain stop functioning, their joints to stop bending, but somehow, people miraculously think that a pill that makes the reproductive system stop functioning is healthy.

Again, this isn’t a moral issue. I don’t question anyone’s morality when a doc prescribes the pill for a “med reasin”. (except the docs).

If you were to have a headache every day in the same place for months, what if your doc just kept putting you on pain meds? That would stop the symptoms, but it wouldn’t fix the possible bigger problem of what could be there (brain tumor, etc).

THis is how the pill is being prescribed for med reasons…as “pain management”…not as something to fix the problem.

Find many medical things explained about this at www.omsoul.com
 
This author is a woman’s doctor/gynocologist with many years experience, and her book offers a unique perspective on origins of female problems, and alternative healing, alongside with conventional medical reccomendations. She addresses heavy bleeding. It would be good to read through at your local bookstore and see if you like it. Also its available on half.com. I highly reccommend it! (also her other books).

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I am so glad I’m not the only one with this problem! Today’s day 3 of my cycle and I’m only just now not having to change every hour on the hour.

I am currently seeking help via my NFP coach through the NaPro route. I also have an appt schedule with my family care doc on Monday. I went to them before I got pregnant with my baby and they wanted me on the pill. I’m just really going on Monday to make sure it’s documented in my medical record that I’m having these problems, as I expect the same results. I specifically asked the doc last time if it could be endo, as a lot of the symptoms fit and she just said, “I really don’t think you have endo, it’s pretty rare,” and didn’t do any tests to further investigate. I was sent home with instructions to take Aleve daily for 3-4 days before my expected period so the cramps were bearable. :mad: Since then I have asked around family members and found that endo does run in my family, including my mother’s sister who had a hysterectomy because her implants were impinging on other organs.

I guess I just wish that more health care practitioners knew about NaPro and would quit pushing the pill on the uninformed. There are cases where it’s medically needed, but I don’t think that it’s more than 3-4% of cases where it’s actually prescribed for menstrual difficulties. I’ll pray for you, that you can get to the source of your problems.
 
agapewolf said:
There are many many Doctors who will say that there is no reason needed for the birth control pill. find them at www.omsoul.com

Those who say side effects are blown out of proportion, that may be true for you, but what about the people who have died or who have been made sterile for the rest of their lives?

No one here is saying that a medical treatment is immoral, just because the side effects is a contraceptive.

The truth is, the BCP can be an abortive.

The truth is is that is a “pill” that makes the body stop working the way it is supposed to…it only makes it appear that things are ok.

In no other situation, would a person take a pill to make their heart stop, their brain stop functioning, their joints to stop bending, but somehow, people miraculously think that a pill that makes the reproductive system stop functioning is healthy.

Again, this isn’t a moral issue. I don’t question anyone’s morality when a doc prescribes the pill for a “med reasin”. (except the docs).

If you were to have a headache every day in the same place for months, what if your doc just kept putting you on pain meds? That would stop the symptoms, but it wouldn’t fix the possible bigger problem of what could be there (brain tumor, etc).

THis is how the pill is being prescribed for med reasons…as “pain management”…not as something to fix the problem.

Find many medical things explained about this at www.omsoul.com
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Not all BCP cause abortion. Moreover, all drugs carry the risk of side effects. Doctors often prescribe blood pressure and cholesterol medicine for patients who could resolve the problem by losing weight. Yet, for some, the same medicine truly is medically necessary because there are not alternatives. The same is true for the pill. It provides hormones for women who need them, in certain cases. The decision to take the pill, and to find the right pill and dosage should be made by the patient and doctor. There are some doctors, who after having exhausted other alternatives, are doing the best thing for their patient by recommending the pill.

One woman cannot speak for others when it comes to this decision. The right doctor can recommend multiple options. I recommend the OP search until she finds a doctor who understands her needs. If after exhausting other treatment options, the pill turns out to be the best treatment method, there is nothing spiritually or morally wrong. Every person should educate themselves on the possible side effects. But for many women, the pill is a miracle. It enables them to bring a 12-day period down to seven or eight days. It reduces the flow so they can leave the bathroom and go to work. It means they don`t have to rely on internal and multiple external products used at the same time just to leave the house.

For some women, the pill ends up being the best alternative. The percentage may be small, but for some it is the best alternative nonetheless.

Sincerely,

Maria1212
 
But docs can…and there are many many docs who will disagree with you about the abortive aspects of all kinds of hormonal birth control…including the pill.

There are many many docs who will say that there is absolutely no medical necessity for the pill.

go to www.omsoul.com
 
agapewolf said:
But docs can…and there are many many docs who will disagree with you about the abortive aspects of all kinds of hormonal birth control…including the pill.

There are many many docs who will say that there is absolutely no medical necessity for the pill.

go to www.omsoul.com
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That does not mean those doctors are right in all cases. Their specific patients may not need it but it does not mean they can speak on behalf of all medical cases.

Sincerely,

Maria1212
 
I’m on ABC for medical reasons too…😦
I don’t like the weight gain (though once I’m on it, after I gain 5 lbs, I stay steady). I’ve been on and off it for a while, because I just don’t like taking another medication. But if I’m not on it, I don’t have anything for months…usually 3-4 months in between times. Plus I’d be really emotional, and sad usually. Last time I was off of it I’m pretty sure I had mild depression…or maybe it was just a total lack of energy.
But when I’m on it, my memory’s better, my mood’s better, and my cycles come every month, so I don’t have to worry about complications from going so long without a…ykw.
I had a question though for you guys…how exactly does NaPro work to actually help (vs. just charting) cycles? It doesn’t seem like the website said very much for me to bring to my gyno. (He’s of the kind that the BC cures everything). I want to appear at least informed, not just being unsatisfied with the artificial help. (I’m not asking for medical advice 🙂 )
 
holly_potter said:
I’m on ABC for medical reasons too…😦
I don’t like the weight gain (though once I’m on it, after I gain 5 lbs, I stay steady). I’ve been on and off it for a while, because I just don’t like taking another medication. But if I’m not on it, I don’t have anything for months…usually 3-4 months in between times. Plus I’d be really emotional, and sad usually. Last time I was off of it I’m pretty sure I had mild depression…or maybe it was just a total lack of energy.
But when I’m on it, my memory’s better, my mood’s better, and my cycles come every month, so I don’t have to worry about complications from going so long without a…ykw.
I had a question though for you guys…how exactly does NaPro work to actually help (vs. just charting) cycles? It doesn’t seem like the website said very much for me to bring to my gyno. (He’s of the kind that the BC cures everything). I want to appear at least informed, not just being unsatisfied with the artificial help. (I’m not asking for medical advice 🙂 )
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I had the same question, especially if you don’t have access to one of the “One Soul” or “NFP Only” docs. I do plan to read the book that was recommended above - by Christiane Northrup - thanks, Eliza, for that reference.
 
My doc has. I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and in order for me to even have periods I have to be on birth control…even though I’m not sexually active. I’m 20 years old and have only had like 3 periods without the aid of birth control 😦
 
I have PCOS and my doc put me on metformin. This helps natural levels of insulin and insulin resistence (don’t undertsand it all), and it fixed the problem, instead of masking it like the pill
 
I wish mine could as simple a fix as metformin…but thankfully I don’t have any problems with insulin resistance. My main problem is complete lack of ovulation. Without the pills I don’t ovulate which means no periods…which right now is a blessing but in the long run I’m in the market for loads of different cancers if I don’t take the meds.
 
My doc has. I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and in order for me to even have periods I have to be on birth control…even though I’m not sexually active. I’m 20 years old and have only had like 3 periods without the aid of birth control
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I have pcos as well. My doctor intially put me on bcps when I was 19 to correct the pcos. At that point I didn’t have any of the weight problems or insulin issues associated with pcos. After a few years on bcps I certainly had them. I don’t know if it was the natural progression of pcos or the bcps, but at 25 the insulin issues hit me with full force (I am not diabetic just have pcos). I couldn’t loose weight, gained uncontrollably despite diet and exercise, and even the bcps could no longer control my cycles on the highest dose possible. I decided to drop the bcps and try charting. I found out about metformin about a year after that. It regulated my cycles so that they are now classic and perfect, allowed me to loose weight, reduced my cholestrol (pcos causes high cholestrol), and pretty much reduced all my other symptoms. Metformin did it by healing the underlying condition, not just masking the symptoms like bcps. While taking bcps for medical reasons isn’t morally wrong. They don’t fix anything. Its much better to find a treatment for the underlying condition rather than a bandaid.
 
Hi, sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. I had heavy periods and cramping after my first child. I always had heavy periods but they became so heavy I would have to change up to 8 super size tampons a day. I would change every half hour because any longer and I would flood. This was especially fun at work. The only good thing was that my period only lasted 4 days instead of my old 9 days.

My male OB/GYN told me not to worry, I should be happy because now I had shorter periods. He assured me that I was probably bleeding the same amount, just all at once. Leave it up to a man to think being tied to a toilet for 24 hours straight was a plus.

Finally a few months later I was seen by the nurse practitioner and when I mentioned my problem again she suggested some herbal remedies. I was desperate so I tried them. It worked! I used Wild Yam that I found in the GNC store. Later it came under the name of Mexican Yam but it worked the same way. I noticed a difference with my very next period and they became more normal in about 4 to 6 weeks. It also seemed to help with PMS. (Seems this acts as a natural hormone and supposedly makes your uterus healthier.) I took the pills for years and never had any side effects.

Hope this helps.
 
Maria1212 said:
Not all BCP cause abortion. Moreover, all drugs carry the risk of side effects. Doctors often prescribe blood pressure and cholesterol medicine for patients who could resolve the problem by losing weight. Yet, for some, the same medicine truly is medically necessary because there are not alternatives. The same is true for the pill. It provides hormones for women who need them, in certain cases. The decision to take the pill, and to find the right pill and dosage should be made by the patient and doctor. There are some doctors, who after having exhausted other alternatives, are doing the best thing for their patient by recommending the pill.

One woman cannot speak for others when it comes to this decision. The right doctor can recommend multiple options. I recommend the OP search until she finds a doctor who understands her needs. If after exhausting other treatment options, the pill turns out to be the best treatment method, there is nothing spiritually or morally wrong. Every person should educate themselves on the possible side effects. But for many women, the pill is a miracle. It enables them to bring a 12-day period down to seven or eight days. It reduces the flow so they can leave the bathroom and go to work. It means they don`t have to rely on internal and multiple external products used at the same time just to leave the house.

For some women, the pill ends up being the best alternative. The percentage may be small, but for some it is the best alternative nonetheless.

Sincerely,

Maria1212
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Thank you.
 
agapewolf said:
I have PCOS and my doc put me on metformin. This helps natural levels of insulin and insulin resistence (don’t undertsand it all), and it fixed the problem, instead of masking it like the pill
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Three days of tiny doses of Metformin put me in the hospital because of the side effects. They took me off immediately, and said I could have died (and I’m in pretty good shape, young, etc). So that’s not a cure-all either.

The Pill balanced my hormones (by adding what I was lacking), and made me feel physically and mentally better every day, not just during my periods, than I had since I was a child. But it spiked my blood pressure after awhile, and the same doctor took me off immediately.

I hate the idea of the pill as birth control, but it’s a perfectly viable medication. All drugs have the possibility to give some people who take them terrible reactions.
 
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