The Novus Ordo Mass is a Mass that is said according to a book called the 1970 Roman Missal. It is the Mass used in the majority of Catholic Churches in the world. It can be said in Latin but it is usually said in English (or spanish, or whatever the locals speak).
Basically, yes. In the Eastern Catholic Churches other languages were and still are used. But in the west Latin was used pretty exclusively until 1970.
A Rite is a tradition of how the sacraments are celebrated. Diffferent Rites hold the same faith but may express that faith in different ways - different customs, different languages, etc.
No. The old Latin Mass was never permitted to be said in English, or any of the other vulgar tongues (English being the most vulgar, of course.)
Correct. I may have been a little confusing in what I wrote.
Yes, but I forgot about the Eastern Rites.
Pray for me.I only have one lung myself. I have given parish talks on various topics and the existence of the Eastern Rites is something I love to bring up.Yes, but I forgot about the Eastern Rites.
I only have one lung.
The language of the people is the vulgar tongue. In this instance it has the same meaning as the word vernacular.
The Mass was said in (ancient) Greek even in Rome itself until the 4th century, and there are still traces of Greek in the Mass. The Latin used in Mass is in fact VULGAR Latin (which was the language of the lower-class and provincials) and is quite different from the Classical Latin used by Julius Caesar, Cicero, Virgil etc and taught in schools today. Hence St Jerome’s Latin Bible is called the “Vulgate”.
Official Church figure? If it is could you please provide a source? Thanks.
Less than 10% of Catholics? Really? So that could be as many as 120 million worldwide. Wow. That’s a lot of Lat(name removed by moderator)hiles.
Eh? What’s that ya say?
Actually he said less then 0.1% which would mean only 1.2 million. In other words a small minority.
Why come out with your sword swishing? I never suggested the Tridentine Rite is “less important” or that I “prefer” the normal version.
I daresay there are many more Lat(name removed by moderator)hiles (people who love Latin) than that (including myself). This is why calling the Tridentine Rite the “Traditional Latin” is misleading. It is perfectly acceptable to say the normal Mass in Latin or any other language. Language is not the issue, though many people try to cloud this. 0.1% of 1.2 billion is in fact 1.2 million. An extremely liberal estimate of the numbers of Tridentine supporters. I make no judgment whether they are right or wrong, good or bad. The Church allows the Tridentine Mass under certain circumstances and I wholeheartedly support its judgment. I was merely warning ReflectHim not to assume, from the large amount of intense pro-Tridentine-Rite material on the internet, that its supporters constitute a significant proportion of Catholics. You will seldom run into a Tridentine-Rite supporter in real life.
The Mass has remained essentially the same from 30 AD until 2005 AD and will continue essentially the same until the end of time.
Dude, I’m not a math whiz, but 10% of 1.2 billion is 120 million, not 1.2 million.
Ah, we have achieved détente. The Mass is the Mass, of whatever Rite. On that we agree. :tiphat:
You are wrong and Petergee is right. He did not say 10%. He said 0.1% which is 1.2 million.