Question on iPhones during Mass

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tafan2 said:
It’s not unwise, it’s the easiest way for me to follow along with the readings. As I said before, relying on most lay lectors is impossible for me.
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Do you have daily mass missals in your pews? My parish does, therefore, there’s no excuse to use a smartphone at my parish.

My argument is that parishes should look into purchasing daily mass missals.

One parish near me buys the “Breaking Bread” missal for Sunday Mass and buys a handful of “Today’s Missal with Daily Readings” for the daily mass chapel.
 
tafan2 said:
That’s a understandable opinion. I certainly hate video screens at mass, yet I use my phone for the daily readings. First of all, one does need to take steps to block out passive information if doing so. I find it almost impossible to just listen to the readings and follow along. Most priests (and many deacons) do a good job reading the gospels, but lay people do a horrible job with the readings. Not their fault, they are simply trained to do it the wrong way. I used to carry a St Joseph’s missal with me in my car for daily mass. But the iMissal app on the phone is just too convenient, so that is what I do. Is it a personal example of “normalization of deviancy”, I hope not.
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Ironically, I did just the opposite. I went from using iMissal for weekday Masses to purchasing and using the St. Joseph’s weekday missals.

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tafan2 said:
Fine, in the meantime, it is not unwise for some of us to use a missals ap
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I didn’t mean it is unwise to use. I mean it is unwise to promote, encourage, support, etc

The wise thing is to promote would be use of a missal or printing of readings on paper handouts.
 
PeterT said:
Ironically, I did just the opposite. I went from using iMissal for weekday Masses to purchasing and using the St. Joseph’s weekday missals.
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I did a similar thing with the LOTH. I used to pray it using the iPhone and then finally bought two copies of “Christian Prayer.”

One to keep in my computer bag and one to keep at my desk
 
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JackMcCoy:
True, but so many people do not use their silent mode. Over the last year, I have heard many ring tones during Mass. The safest thing is just to turn the phone off. Again, this is solely my opinion. 🙏🙏🙏
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Yes, I hear phones ring during Mass on a regular basis.
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This surprises me. I don’t often hear phones at Mass.

I USED to. Back in the 199Xs and the 200Xs. Back when people were new to cell phones and didn’t know how to put them on silent.

Now, I almost never hear them. If I do, it’s usually at Christmas, Easter, a wedding, a funeral, or other time where people who are not often in church are present.
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Have you checked your hearing lately? You’re 20 years older now. 😉

I still hear cell phones going off during Mass, even weekday Masses where one would think the Faithful would be contentious about silencing their phones. Occasionally, even one of priests at my parish forgets to silence his iPhone and it has sounded during the Mass. The other priest — the pastor — is a lot wiser in regards to this: he just leaves his smartphone in the rectory before heading to the church to celebrate the Mass. 🙂
 
The text on a screen may be made much larger, at the cost of having very little text on the screen. My point stands. Larger text on screen requires much more manipulation.
 
Ah, I well remember the "progressives’ who said that we shouldn’t be reading because the "Word"was to be proclaimed. Never mind that some obtain information by reading far better than by hearing.

Reminds one of a joke: what is the difference between a terrorist and a liturgist?

You can negotiate with a terrorist…🤣🤣🤣
 
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Here’s an idea – how about everyone concentrate on Mass, and not worry about how others are doing the same?
Weird, I know, but it might be worth a try. 😉
 
Ah – this explains why our 68-year-old pastor told us we shouldn’t be reading, just listening…
 
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otjm said:
Ah, I well remember the "progressives’ who said that we shouldn’t be reading because the "Word"was to be proclaimed. Never mind that some obtain information by reading far better than by hearing.
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That was the opinion of our founding pastor. I have never heard our current pastor offer an opinion on the matter although I know that he places very high value on the spoken word. I’d go so far as to say that (on a purely speaking level) our readers do a better job of reading than many of the visiting priests we get.
 
If a person is actually using an app on their phone as a missal for Mass, they are probably far more likely to remember to turn it to “silent” than someone who just has it in their pocket and forgot it.
 
I’m not how to put this, but it seems to me that most people’s ringtones are just not nearly as pretentious as they were back in the day. Not to accuse anyone of ill intentions, but I suspect that when cell phones were new, it was somewhat of a social status to have one and people frequently chose ringtones that were long and loud, almost as a form of self- expression. Nowadays, most people are happy enough with a simple beep, click, or “beedy-bong!”, rather than the entire Hallelujah chorus from the Messiah or the newest boy band’s hit. So, even if phones do go off at inappropriate times, they aren’t nearly as noticeable and people tend to tune them out…
 
So, Mr. Doe shouldn’t use a tool that is useful to him because someone else doesn’t want to parent their 8yo? Doesn’t make much sense to me. Whatever happened to, “I’m not raising Mr. Doe, I’m raising you and I said no.”
 
I’m not sure what you are referring to, but I have no problem telling my children “no”. I can’t guarantee they will always accept “no” without a fight, but I certainly have no trouble saying it.
 
Allegra said:
I’m not how to put this, but it seems to me that most people’s ringtones are just not nearly as pretentious as they were back in the day. Not to accuse anyone of ill intentions, but I suspect that when cell phones were new, it was somewhat of a social status to have one and people frequently chose ringtones that were long and loud, almost as a form of self- expression. Nowadays, most people are happy enough with a simple beep, click, or “beedy-bong!”, rather than the entire Hallelujah chorus from the Messiah or the newest boy band’s hit. So, even if phones do go off at inappropriate times, they aren’t nearly as noticeable and people tend to tune them out…
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I think the other reason is that on the newer phones, it’s harder to add custom ringtones. It can still be done (on most phones) but it’s not as straightforward as it was in the past when each wireless company had dedicated ringtone stores where one could purchase a ringtone easily and then install it on their cellular phone with only a couple of clicks.
 
I’ve done this to in the past. Now I record the homilies and then take notes after mass. But I hold my phone up a bit to record it and I get some puzzled looks haha
 
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