I have the App on my Android Tablet. The App is free. Of course I still had to pay the $25.99 to download the hymns.But why even consider financing the hymnal books, when one can now download GIA’s hymnal app to their iPad or Android device!
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phil19034
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Because a Parish should not promote that. What happens when you have guests at mass? Public announcement before every mass? “Before mass begins, please go to the Apple or Android store and install the GIA app, use this parish code, and then blah blah blah.”phil19034:
But why even consider financing the hymnal books, when one can now download GIA’s hymnal app to their iPad or Android device!Cor_ad_Cor:
Your argument isn’t very compellingphil19034:
These aren’t cheap. Some parishes wouldn’t get them without a substantial donation or fund drive*. Then there’s the issue of storage space… not all pews have book racks in the back/underneath. Then, consider the additional maintenance and updating costs - things do change (slowly, but they do).
One of the two parishes where I go has about 20 subscription copies of the disposable seasonal missalettes at the entrances for the 750-800 in attendance because that’s what they’ve determined is reasonable for the budget.
*Consider GIA’s Worship IV which is somewhat standard around here. Pew copy with readings is $16.50 plus shipping. By the time you supply the seating capacity of the church (let’s say 900), that’s more than $15,000. That’s about a third of a staff position for an average parish in the Midwest. Not too much if everyone chipped in or bought their own, but considering we’re pulling teeth to get people to drop $2-5 in the collection… (and this book is Sunday readings only).
This can be financed and you don’t have to do them all in one year.
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If a parish wants to have people sing, they have to provide the music. When providing the music they can provide the readings.
Whether that’s via a printout in the bulletin each week, a subscription missal, or a permanent missal.
At BARE MINIMUM, there is no reason why a parish can’t print the Sunday readings in the bulletin and buy a number of daily mass missals for daily mass
As I posted earlier, that would require copyright permission, which likely would not be given for something other than a special occasion.
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phil19034
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My Cathedral does it for every weekend Mass. GIA (and others) have licenses which the parish can get for the music, while the parish can get a license for the readings from the CCD.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/permissions/index.cfm#aids
Also another parish near me prints the readings from the D-R since that translation is in the public domain.
So it can be done
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Margaret_Ann
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Why not use a Missal/prayerbook? If people see you using an iPhone or other cell phone, they may get the impression that it’s OK to focus on your cell phone instead of being attentive during the liturgy. Imo it doesn’t set a good example for others. In 1 Cor. 8: 8 - 9: 2, St. Paul says he would never eat meat again if it scandalized others. Substitute “cell phone” for “meat” and that pretty much sums up on avoiding scandal (N.B. “Scandal” is being used in the traditional Catholic sense I.e. causing others to sin.)
True trivia tidbit: 1 Cor. 8: 8 - 9: 2 is the Epistle for Meatfare Sunday I.e. 2 Sundays before the beginning of the Great Fast. It is the same day as Sexagesima on the TL calendar.
True trivia tidbit: 1 Cor. 8: 8 - 9: 2 is the Epistle for Meatfare Sunday I.e. 2 Sundays before the beginning of the Great Fast. It is the same day as Sexagesima on the TL calendar.
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Margaret_Ann
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It scares the living daylights out of me when I hear a cell phone in church.
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Margaret_Ann
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One of our former pastors (deceased) always put the readings in the church bulletin.
I would rather just listen to a reading than try to read along with a different translation than what is being proclaimed but I guess that’s just me. Dealing with multiple English translations seems more like bible study than Mass.
In any case, a parish needs to spend some money if they plan to supply copyrighted readings.
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Margaret_Ann
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Your last sentence is spot on! 
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Allegra
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Why? Like you are literally afraid of the sound of a cell phone, or you just get easily startled by unexpected noises?
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Margaret_Ann
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I get startled very easily. I’m so focused on the Liturgy that when a cell phone goes off I literally jump out of my seat.
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Margaret_Ann
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God bless your priest!
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phil19034
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Personally, I don’t use a missal when the mass is in English. I only use one when the readings are in a different language.
I normally just listen too. I am actually likely to get distracted if I see the printed word and want to start looking up other other bible verses or look up hymns that are based on the reading. The lectors at my parish are exceptionally well trained so it is generally better if I don’t look at the printed word.
(I do try to at least look to see what the readings will be prior to Mass.)
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Cor_ad_Cor
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I can’t believe you’ve gone on for so many posts criticizing other people for not doing it your way only to say you don’t read but listen — which you criticized me for earlier when I suggested it!
banging my head against the wall
banging my head against the wall
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giuseppe96
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It shouldn’t be a problem. I used mine to follow the propers at a Tridentine midnight Mass this past Christmas. I got some strange looks at first, but they probably noticed later that I was only picking it up at certain times and not typing on my keyboard. Word of advice: always double check that your phone is silenced, and turn on DO NOT DISTURB. It will save you the embarrassment.
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otjm
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I am not at all convinced that the OP was speaking of weekday Masses, and if so, your point is not relevant.
This argument is getting down to “I want to use my phone because I have one”. The OP’s comment about it being easier is simply not true; it might be with a larger pad instead of a phone. But the discussion is about a phone.
I may look at other response after this, but in essence, at this point, the conversation is going nowhere.
Have a blessed Sunday!
This argument is getting down to “I want to use my phone because I have one”. The OP’s comment about it being easier is simply not true; it might be with a larger pad instead of a phone. But the discussion is about a phone.
I may look at other response after this, but in essence, at this point, the conversation is going nowhere.
Have a blessed Sunday!
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TK421
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Androids are permissible but iPhones are a mortal sin.
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Cor_ad_Cor
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While the opposing view is, “You can’t use a phone because I don’t like it.” We should probably end the thread while we’re still in the neighborhood of civility.
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Lifeisbeautiful3
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Who owns the Bible copyright? Lucky them!
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