Question on Islam.

[Kouyate42]

But you’ve been trying to say a lot of things to people without proof- Are we just supposed to believe you? Your Qur’an has not even passed the test of whether it’s anything more than the product of Muhammad’s (and possibly others’) minds.

And so far NO-ONE has proven to me why I should believe the Bible over the Qur’an, other than some ‘blah blah Church fathers blah blah Bible verse’ argument which relies primarily on believing the Bible is true in the first place.

I’m coming to the impression that people in this thread decide what they want to be the conclusion and then find the bits of evidence to suit, and ignore anything that doesn’t suit them even when there’s a mountain of conflicting evidence.

And it’s not my Qur’an, it’s yours and everyone in the world’s Qur’an!

 

[Marybeloved]

And so far NO-ONE has proven to me why I should believe the Bible over the Qur’an, other than some ‘blah blah Church fathers blah blah Bible verse’ argument which relies primarily on believing the Bible is true in the first place.

I’m coming to the impression that people in this thread decide what they want to be the conclusion and then find the bits of evidence to suit, and ignore anything that doesn’t suit them even when there’s a mountain of conflicting evidence.

And it’s not my Qur’an, it’s yours and everyone in the world’s Qur’an!

Every objection you’ve made to Chrisianity has been answered, every question you’ve been asked about Islam has been dodged (by you)- Your religion choice has nothing to do with how much proof you’ve received either way. Your constant religion-hopping already shows it.

 

[Kouyate42]

Every objection you’ve made to Chrisianity has been answered, every question you’ve been asked about Islam has been dodged (by you)- Your religion choice has nothing to do with how much proof you’ve received either way.

I’m dodging questions because I’m sick and tired of answering the same questions, over and over again, time after time only for people to either ignore it or simply hear what they want to hear. I’ve discussed the matter of Aisha’s age before, and yet still people keep on recycling the same tired lies. Ditto the issue of the preservation of the Qur’an, for which I have advanced arguments along with hamba2han. Ditto the issue of Jesus being a Muslim. Ditto a hundred and one other topics.

As to people answering my questions, I find their answers illogical and often outright lies or fabrications. They twist Scripture to their own ends and ignore what contradicts their position…

And the fact is that my choice to follow Islam is purely a choice based on evidence. I read the Bible, I read the Qur’an, I read the evidence for both, and made a decision as to which I felt to be true. I believe I have had signs from Allah to tell me I am doing the right thing.

 

[jakasaki]

I’m dodging questions because I’m sick and tired of answering the same questions, over and over again, time after time only for people to either ignore it or simply hear what they want to hear. I’ve discussed the matter of Aisha’s age before, and yet still people keep on recycling the same tired lies. Ditto the issue of the preservation of the Qur’an, for which I have advanced arguments along with hamba2han. Ditto the issue of Jesus being a Muslim. Ditto a hundred and one other topics.

And the fact is that my choice to follow Islam is purely a choice based on evidence. I read the Bible, I read the Qur’an, I read the evidence for both, and made a decision as to which I felt to be true. I believe I have had signs from Allah to tell me I am doing the right thing.

Then you need to go into an islamic forum for your discussions against Christianity, Jesus & the Bible.

**You seem to forget this is a Catholic forum. **

 

[jakasaki]

I’m dodging questions because I’m sick and tired of answering the same questions, over and over again, time after time only for people to either ignore it or simply hear what they want to hear. I’ve discussed the matter of Aisha’s age before, and yet still people keep on recycling the same tired lies. Ditto the issue of the preservation of the Qur’an, for which I have advanced arguments along with hamba2han. Ditto the issue of Jesus being a Muslim. Ditto a hundred and one other topics.

As to people answering my questions, I find their answers illogical and often outright lies or fabrications. They twist Scripture to their own ends and ignore what contradicts their position…

And the fact is that my choice to follow Islam is purely a choice based on evidence. I read the Bible, I read the Qur’an, I read the evidence for both, and made a decision as to which I felt to be true. I believe I have had signs from Allah to tell me I am doing the right thing.

Also, there are about 5 posters from this thread still awaiting for your answers to their inquiries.

 

[Kouyate42]

Then you need to go into an islamic forum for your discussions against Christianity, Jesus & the Bible.

**You seem to forget this is a Catholic forum. **

If people ask me a question, I answer it fully and to the best of my knowledge. If they don’t like my answer, that is their problem and not mine. I cannot help my personal views or the viewpoint taken by my faith.

And there is nothing to stop me, a non-Catholic, from being on this forum. As it happens, I am a member of an Islamic forum, but I want to hear all the different religious viewpoints, hence why I’m here.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

This is what I’ve been trying to tell people. Jesus submitted himself to God much like ANY other Muslim. He made sujud and prayed. There are plenty of examples of this in the Bible where the people have prostrated themselves before God and prayed to Him and Him alone.

Also, I seem to remember that prostration (sujud), bowing (ruku) and bending of the knees all feature in modern Orthodox Jewish worship and in Orthodox Christianity.

Jesus was a Jew!

Not a Muslim! Mohammed didn’t even exist in Jesus’ time! What in the world??? What are you smoking???

 

[TheRealJuliane]

And so far NO-ONE has proven to me why I should believe the Bible over the Qur’an, other than some ‘blah blah Church fathers blah blah Bible verse’ argument which relies primarily on believing the Bible is true in the first place.

I’m coming to the impression that people in this thread decide what they want to be the conclusion and then find the bits of evidence to suit, and ignore anything that doesn’t suit them even when there’s a mountain of conflicting evidence.

And it’s not my Qur’an, it’s yours and everyone in the world’s Qur’an!

Thanks, but NO THANKS! Leave the Koran to Muslims, I’m not a follower of Allah.

Maybe claiming that Jesus was a Muslim got your friend banned.

 

[Marybeloved]

I’m dodging questions because I’m sick and tired of answering the same questions, over and over again, time after time only for people to either ignore it or simply hear what they want to hear. I’ve discussed the matter of Aisha’s age before, and yet still people keep on recycling the same tired lies. Ditto the issue of the preservation of the Qur’an, for which I have advanced arguments along with hamba2han. Ditto the issue of Jesus being a Muslim. Ditto a hundred and one other topics.

Really? I remember you in SEVERAL THREADS back before you left Islam the last time, where you played the same dance you’ve been dancing here, “Oh, I’ll answer you guys later” etc etc- You STILL have NEVER answered them- not once! Would you like us to link them? It’s not that hard, just need to look at you posting History 2 and 3 months ago.

As to people answering my questions, I find their answers illogical and often outright lies or fabrications. They twist Scripture to their own ends and ignore what contradicts their position…

Yet you are incapable of answering these obvious illogicalities? How come?

And the fact is that my choice to follow Islam is purely a choice based on evidence. I read the Bible, I read the Qur’an, I read the evidence for both, and made a decision as to which I felt to be true. I believe I have had signs from Allah to tell me I am doing the right thing.

You’ve done that dance so many times claiming emphatically each time how much evidence you got, I know this is not the last time either- What happened when you did that before? Did you suddenly forget all these evidence before? And why do you display such difficulty showing this “evidence” if it’s so clear?- Kouyate, this is like the gazillionth thread that you’ve been unable to answer questions before suddenly announcing a change of religion.

 

[Kouyate42]

Thanks, but NO THANKS! Leave the Koran to Muslims, I’m not a follower of Allah.

Actually, you are, as you are one of the People of the Book.

Maybe claiming that Jesus was a Muslim got your friend banned.

If this is the case, then why didn’t I get an infraction/ban/whatever?

And I claim nothing that isn’t cited on many Islamic websites.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Actually, you are, as you are one of the People of the Book.

If this is the case, then why didn’t I get an infraction/ban/whatever?

And I claim nothing that isn’t cited on many Islamic websites.

You know what? Your opinion on that is absolutely worthless to me. Whatever your prophet says, I don’t worship Allah. And I am requesting that you stop insisting this is true. It is obnoxious on this forum, when people have been so kind and charitable to you with your many confusions.

 

[Kouyate42]

You know what? Your opinion on that is absolutely worthless to me. Whatever your prophet says, I don’t worship Allah. And I am requesting that you stop insisting this is true. It is obnoxious on this forum, when people have been so kind and charitable to you with your many confusions.

Fine.

 

[exoflare]

Your constant religion-hopping already shows it.

 

[PumpkinSeed]

Shes a transgender who will become male soon through sex change. That is what she said.

 

[PumpkinSeed]

If people ask me a question, I answer it fully and to the best of my knowledge. If they don’t like my answer, that is their problem and not mine. I cannot help my personal views or the viewpoint taken by my faith.

But you just said in a previous post that you usually skip most questions because youre tired of answering them.

Way to contradict yourself, again.

 

[Miriam1947]

Does anyone have Robert Spencer’s new book?

***Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins ***

I saw it on Amazon.

 

[PumpkinSeed]

Does anyone have Robert Spencer’s new book?

***Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins ***

I saw it on Amazon.

While I do believe he was a false prophet, questioning his existence is a bit far.

 

[Armyvet007]

And so far NO-ONE has proven to me why I should believe the Bible over the Qur’an, other than some ‘blah blah Church fathers blah blah Bible verse’ argument which relies primarily on believing the Bible is true in the first place.

The Bible doesn’t add in heretical Jewish works in order to validate itself. It also doesn’t remove portions of the Jewish holy text in order to validate itself. It takes the same holy texts of Judaism and changes the interpurtation of the texts. Christ doesn’t quote/reference heretical Jewish works. He uses the valid Jewish Scriptures.

 

[Armyvet007]

While I do believe he was a false prophet, questioning his existence is a bit far.

That and the only reason to prove he did not exist is IOT disprove him as a prophet. Might as well just stick with the real argument- his status as a prophet.

 

[rinnie]

I’m dodging questions because I’m sick and tired of answering the same questions, over and over again, time after time only for people to either ignore it or simply hear what they want to hear. I’ve discussed the matter of Aisha’s age before, and yet still people keep on recycling the same tired lies. Ditto the issue of the preservation of the Qur’an, for which I have advanced arguments along with hamba2han. Ditto the issue of Jesus being a Muslim. Ditto a hundred and one other topics.

As to people answering my questions, I find their answers illogical and often outright lies or fabrications. They twist Scripture to their own ends and ignore what contradicts their position…

And the fact is that my choice to follow Islam is purely a choice based on evidence. I read the Bible, I read the Qur’an, I read the evidence for both, and made a decision as to which I felt to be true. I believe I have had signs from Allah to tell me I am doing the right thing.

I never got your answer to my question, So here it is again. Point blank, do you have a problem if you had a 6 year old daughter and giving her to a 60 year old man, and letting her have sex with her when she is 9?

Also what is your feelings on the teaching that when you enter heaven, if you do, that you also have boys?

Now we are speaking of Muslim Men. WHY? Why would a Muslim men also want like 26 boys or something like that? I forget the exact number, I would have to look it up, But really the number is not the question at hand, the issue is.

In the O.T. it is said for a Man to have sex with a Man is an abomination. Now why would God tell your prophet that he would give him boys in heaven if he obeys God’s will?

Muhammad is making the word of God a lie or is in direct contradiction do you not agree?

Please I am asking I do not know and do not mean to offend, but is it accepted for a muslim man to have sex with a boy?

If not how can it not be accepted here, but accepted in heaven? And how can Muhammad teach someone to sin as written in the N.T. You do accept the N.T. do you not?