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My child of 11 years old asked me this question. Dad why is there no mention of black people, asian people, and all the different races in the Bible. And how could have black people etc. come about if adam and eve were white and vice versa?

STUMPED!!! by my 11 yr. old…

thanks for any help:)
 
  1. There is plenty of mention of Africans - mostly Egyptian - in the bible, and other non-semitic people. And in Acts, the apostles travel far and wide. I think it’s Philip who first went to Asia. The gospel also very quickly spread to Ethiopia.
  2. Where in any accepted translation does it say Adam and Eve are “white”?
 
  1. There is plenty of mention of Africans - mostly Egyptian - in the bible, and other non-semitic people. And in Acts, the apostles travel far and wide. I think it’s Philip who first went to Asia. The gospel also very quickly spread to Ethiopia.
  2. Where in any accepted translation does it say Adam and Eve are “white”?
the “vice versa” in my original post was meant for the fact that they were either black or white skinned.
 
Tower of Babel - the people were scattered over the earth.

Skin color is a function of climate and our adaptation to it.
 
the “vice versa” in my original post was meant for the fact that they were either black or white skinned.
Not necessarily. It makes more sense to consider that they were some shade of brown-skinned. Especially if you consider that the Garden of Eden has long been thought to be in what is now Iraq (of all places!!)

Ordinary genetics can get you to all kinds of different skin color, hair color and type, eye color, etc if the original parents are ‘generic’ (that is not one or the other specific type).
 
I think he’s just asking if they were white, where did blacks come from, and if they were black, where’d whites come from, and so on.

I would answer your son: The word “Adam” means “human,” and the word “Eve” means “life” or “living.” So Adam and Eve are the ancestors of all human life, of whatever color, and however long ago they lived. As to where the races come from, the answer is not found in the Bible; however, the Bible does say that God has made of one blood all the nations of the earth. Genetically we are all one species, no matter our color, and have one ancestry.
 
bibles.com/brcpages/africansinbible

Simon was the one who helped Jesus bear the cross. He was from Cyrene, a major city in North Africa (Matthew 27.32; Mark 15.21; Luke 23.26)

Simply have him look up the places where people came from in the bible,

Acts 2:9-10 (King James Version)

9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

The bible does not make a big deal of being different.

I think Adam was likely black, since the oldest known human remains is lucy in africa. White skin is simply the absecence of mellon which could be simply an adaptation to meet evniroment.

google.com/search?hl=en&q=African+in+the+Bible
 
Song of Solomon 1:5-6 Douay-Rheims
I am black but beautiful, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Cedar, as the curtains of Solomon. Do not consider me that I am brown, because the sun hath altered my colour: the sons of my mother have fought against me, they have made me the keeper in the vineyards: my vineyard I have not kept.
 
bibles.com/brcpages/africansinbible

Simon was the one who helped Jesus bear the cross. He was from Cyrene, a major city in North Africa (Matthew 27.32; Mark 15.21; Luke 23.26)

Simply have him look up the places where people came from in the bible,

Acts 2:9-10 (King James Version)

9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

The bible does not make a big deal of being different.

I think Adam was likely black, since the oldest known human remains is lucy in africa. White skin is simply the absecence of mellon which could be simply an adaptation to meet evniroment.

google.com/search?hl=en&q=African+in+the+Bible
What is the default skin color of a human? If skin color is an adaptation to climate then why presume Adam was black. Remember, God created Adam and Eve and placed them in the garden.
 
Skin color may be an adaptation to the environment/climate, but what about the USA? In this country, the climate does not change much from one state to the next. Yet, children still end up looking like their parents. I wonder how long it takes for genetics to take a back seat and for adaptation to take over? Kind of a scientific question. For example, a girl born to African-American parents in Minnesota will still be black and a boy born to Caucasian parents in Arizona will still be white. You see?

Tracy
 
Skin color may be an adaptation to the environment/climate, but what about the USA? In this country, the climate does not change much from one state to the next. Yet, children still end up looking like their parents. I wonder how long it takes for genetics to take a back seat and for adaptation to take over? Kind of a scientific question. For example, a girl born to African-American parents in Minnesota will still be black and a boy born to Caucasian parents in Arizona will still be white. You see?

Tracy
Oh boy,…first off, let me get something out of the way: this is a question of microevolution, not macroevolution, which even the strictest anti-evolutionist usually concedes

So the reason for that is that the child will continue to be black or brown or whatever, since, even though there is no reason to have that skin color in a north american temperate zone, there’s also no ‘selective pressure’ not to be. That is, as long as it doesn’t confer a disadvantage in breeding, so the modern synthesis of evolution holds, the trait will continue in the genome.

So, since a ‘black’ child in Minnesota will still be able to reproduce (as his or her parents did), and his or her genes are for the ‘black’ phenotype (appearance) and assuming he/she intermarries with a ‘black’ woman or man of course they’re children are going to be black.

No one one here is saying that skin color is not genetic. Of course it is. Your misunderstanding may be in how environment influences genetic transmission of traits.

So hypothetically, over time, whatever color people are or were, lived in an environment where there was a lot of sun. It would follow that tan skin would confer an advantage (less burning, thus less possibility for infections from blisters-- remember this may have been long ago when we were dirtier folks without much soap and washing, and maybe eve less skin cancer) so ostensibly people with darker skin (from random mutations) would ‘outbreed’ those who did not have darker skin. Over time, more and more of the population would become darker. This is all a very rough outline of microevolution, but that’s that story.

So now, to answer your question! The short answer is, never. One will continue to be born ‘black’ to ‘black’ parents as long as it’s not a disadvantage in reproduction (which I can’t see how it would be), unless one intermarries of course, which is a change in genotype, or unless one mutates (albinism for example), which is also a change in genotype.

Don’t get too hung up on this stuff…
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-Teddy Ruxpin
 
What is the default skin color of a human? If skin color is an adaptation to climate then why presume Adam was black. Remember, God created Adam and Eve and placed them in the garden.
Skin color is a ‘blended trait’. So, I think you’re used to traits that are dominant vs. recessive. So for example, six fingers is dominant over five fingers (this is actually true), so the ‘default’ might be considered 6 fingers, or all else being equal, a dominant gene might be the ‘default’.

It of course doesn’t work that simply, but I’d introduce that not all, in fact surprisingly few traits work this way. Most traits are not ‘dominant-recessive’ types of traits (Mendelian genetics), they’re usually or often ‘blended’. Skin color, height, eye shape (not eye color!), etc. ‘blend’ to mix the two parents’ conferred traits.

Clear as mud?
 
Skin color is a ‘blended trait’. So, I think you’re used to traits that are dominant vs. recessive. So for example, six fingers is dominant over five fingers (this is actually true), so the ‘default’ might be considered 6 fingers, or all else being equal, a dominant gene might be the ‘default’.

It of course doesn’t work that simply, but I’d introduce that not all, in fact surprisingly few traits work this way. Most traits are not ‘dominant-recessive’ types of traits (Mendelian genetics), they’re usually or often ‘blended’. Skin color, height, eye shape (not eye color!), etc. ‘blend’ to mix the two parents’ conferred traits.

Clear as mud?
What would be the default skin color (created condition)?
 
When my grandson was four years old in Head Start, he asked me why he was the only one that was apricot and everybody else in his class was brown. He asked this publicly while we were riding the city transit. I answered simply that God makes people in different colors. As MLK said, it is not the color of our skin that is important but the color of our character.
 
I think he’s just asking if they were white, where did blacks come from, and if they were black, where’d whites come from, and so on.

I would answer your son: The word “Adam” means “human,” and the word “Eve” means “life” or “living.” So Adam and Eve are the ancestors of all human life, of whatever color, and however long ago they lived. As to where the races come from, the answer is not found in the Bible; however, the Bible does say that God has made of one blood all the nations of the earth. Genetically we are all one species, no matter our color, and have one ancestry.
I think thats a beautiful statement.
 
Oh boy,…first off, let me get something out of the way: this is a question of microevolution, not macroevolution, which even the strictest anti-evolutionist usually concedes

So now, to answer your question! The short answer is, never. One will continue to be born ‘black’ to ‘black’ parents as long as it’s not a disadvantage in reproduction (which I can’t see how it would be), unless one intermarries of course, which is a change in genotype, or unless one mutates (albinism for example), which is also a change in genotype.

Don’t get too hung up on this stuff…
👍

-Teddy Ruxpin
Thanks Teddy! I wasn’t trying to be difficult. I honestly didn’t think anyone would have an answer, but I wanted to through it out there anyway. I’m just the type who likes to learn new things, that’s all.

Tracy
 
My child of 11 years old asked me this question. Dad why is there no mention of black people, asian people, and all the different races in the Bible. And how could have black people etc. come about if adam and eve were white and vice versa?

STUMPED!!! by my 11 yr. old…

thanks for any help:)
Did the bible say Adam and Eve were white, if so when did the people there (Iran/Iraq) develop a darker complexion with coal black hair?
 
Did the bible say Adam and Eve were white, if so when did the people there (Iran/Iraq) develop a darker complexion with coal black hair?
Well they had to be white. Every picture I"ve seen of them shows they were white.

Come to think of it, they seemed to be of Western European descent… hmmmmmmmm…
 
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