Question re: Tridentine Mass Guidelines

[tweetie]

Hi all,

I’m new to this forum and hope this message gets through OK. I tried sending it once and I think it got lost in outerspace. If this is a repeat, my apologies.

Here’s my question:

A nearby parish is hoping to start having the Tridentine Mass on Sunday evenings after their usual Novus Ordo Masses.

The liturgy coordinator is unsure about the liturgical day for the old Mass (i.e., Sabbath starts at sundown on Friday and is considered the new day for our Jewish ancestors of the faith).

Can the Tridentine Mass be said 7:30 p.m. on a Sunday and still use the Sunday readings and fulfill the faithful’s Sunday obligation? Or, would a Mass at that time have to be considered as a Monday vigil?

I know several places where the Novus Ordo is said later on Sunday evenings (7:00 and even as late as 9:00). They use the Sunday readings and it meets the Sunday obligation of those attending.

Any help you can send on this would be appreciated. We need the “official Church stance” on this question before they can move forward with the old Mass.

Blessings,
Tweetie

 

[Caesar]

Yes, this is allowed.

I sometimes work on Sunday mornings, so I end up attending Low Mass at 7:30pm, which uses the same propers as the 10:30am High Mass.

 

[AJV]

Hi all,

I’m new to this forum and hope this message gets through OK. I tried sending it once and I think it got lost in outerspace. If this is a repeat, my apologies.

Here’s my question:

A nearby parish is hoping to start having the Tridentine Mass on Sunday evenings after their usual Novus Ordo Masses.

The liturgy coordinator is unsure about the liturgical day for the old Mass (i.e., Sabbath starts at sundown on Friday and is considered the new day for our Jewish ancestors of the faith).

Can the Tridentine Mass be said 7:30 p.m. on a Sunday and still use the Sunday readings and fulfill the faithful’s Sunday obligation? Or, would a Mass at that time have to be considered as a Monday vigil?

Seen in this way (sundown, etc.) the liturgical Sunday can be considered to run from the previous Saturday evening to Sunday night because Sunday has both I Vespers and II Vespers.

The liturgical day ending at the previous evening (except for Sundays and major feasts) was a feature of the pre-1962 Missal (which is the missal used for Traditional Masses). Something like:

Monday: Vespers of Tuesday
Tuesday: Vespers of Wednesday
and so forth

Since the 1962 missal, to reconcile the fact that fasts, etc. used to run midnight to midnight, the liturgical day was accordingly changed to run from midngiht to midnight instead of approx. sunset to sunset. Kind of like:

Monday: Vespers of Monday
Tuesday: Vespers of Tuesday
and so forth.

There also used to be rule that Mass could not be said after midday (although for monasteries and similar churches and cathedrals, Mass was permitted at 3 p.m. on some days) but since 1953 and 1957 this rule is no longer in force.

(And this my roundabout way of saying what Caesar succinctly did in the above post)

 

[markadm]

As others have said, Sunday keeps going all the way until the night.

 

[tweetie]

Thanks to all of you who so generously answered my question. I’ll forward it on to my friend the liturgy coordinator. She’ll be thrilled to hear the news.

Through the Prayers of the Holy Mother of God,
~ Tweetie