Question regarding attendence and Holy Days moved to Sunday

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Here is a question.
I am going to a high mass for Corpus Christi in the EF on Thursday of next week, which is the true day Corpus Christi is celebrated.
Since in the OF Corpus Christi is celebrated on the following Sunday in the United States, do I still have to go to mass on Sunday? Technically I already went to the Corpus Christi Mass…
Not looking for some excuse not to go or anything like that, I will go anyways since I’m a lector in the OF parish I go to and am scheduled to read that Sunday but it was more a hypothetical question, that if you already went to the mass for that day , just on the true day it falls on, are you required to attend the mass for that same solemnity again on Sunday?
I know of course all Sundays are Holy Days but since Corpus Christi is moved it takes the place of the Sunday, and if one already attended it on Thursday wouldn’t that mean they already met their obligation? This isn’t unique to Corpus Christi either, it is also possible for this to happen on Epiphany and on Ascension( in provinces who have moved it to the seventh Sunday of Easter in the OF).
 
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Since in the OF Corpus Christi is celebrated on the following Sunday in the United States, do I still have to go to mass on Sunday?
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Yes, because if it’s not Corpus Christi, it’s still Sunday, and Catholics have to go to Mass on Sunday.

You don’t get Sunday off because you decided to observe the holy day on the EF date.

If you don’t believe me, ask the EF priest at the Corpus Christi Mass whether the Mass takes the place of the following Sunday and see what he says.
 
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Oh like I said this isn’t some question of me trying not to go to Church, it is more so just hypothetical. Yah I will ask to be sure.
 
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Transferring the weekday feast to a Sunday is for the convenience/ good of the priests and parish, because it is assumed everybody will be at Mass on the Sunday.

There is no provision to my knowledge for transferring Sundays to other days. Sundays are never considered fulfilled by going on a weekday instead. Unless it’s Saturday vigil for Sunday obligation.
 
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Since in the OF Corpus Christi is celebrated on the following Sunday in the United States, do I still have to go to mass on Sunday?
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Yes.
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Technically I already went to the Corpus Christi Mass…
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That doesn’t matter. Your obligation is to attend Mass on Sundays. The obligation is fulfilled when you attend a mass, in any rite, celebrated on the day of or the Saturday evening before. The liturgy of the day is not relevant-- it could be a nuptial mass on a Saturday evening. It could be in any Catholic Rite including Eastern Rites that might be celebrating some other feast that day.

Your obligation is to attend Mass on Sunday (by attending on Sunday or the evening before).

That you want to attend a certain liturgical celebration on the EF calendar on another day is laudable, but it has no bearing on the Sunday obligation nor your fulfillment of it.
 
For the record, both dates are the “true” date of Corpus Christi - one in the EF calendar and one in the OF calendar. Your terminology needs to be adjusted. The two forms of Mass follow different, equally valid calendars. Your question about Mass obligations has been addressed, but this needed clarified as well. One is not less than or somehow “posing as” the feast.
 
Prodigal1984 said:
Here is a question.
I am going to a high mass for Corpus Christi in the EF on Thursday of next week, which is the true day Corpus Christi is celebrated.
Since in the OF Corpus Christi is celebrated on the following Sunday in the United States, do I still have to go to mass on Sunday? Technically I already went to the Corpus Christi Mass…
Not looking for some excuse not to go or anything like that, I will go anyways since I’m a lector in the OF parish I go to and am scheduled to read that Sunday but it was more a hypothetical question, that if you already went to the mass for that day , just on the true day it falls on, are you required to attend the mass for that same solemnity again on Sunday?
I know of course all Sundays are Holy Days but since Corpus Christi is moved it takes the place of the Sunday, and if one already attended it on Thursday wouldn’t that mean they already met their obligation? This isn’t unique to Corpus Christi either, it is also possible for this to happen on Epiphany and on Ascension( in provinces who have moved it to the seventh Sunday of Easter in the OF).
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Yes. You always have an obligation to go to Mass on Sunday. Doesn’t matter what Liturgy they are using or Feast they are recognizing.

When a Holy Day is moved to Sunday, it’s done because the Bishops want to remove the obligation, but they still want all practicing Catholic to experience the Liturgy for that Mass. So it’s moved to Sunday, a day we always have to attend mass.
 
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since Corpus Christi is moved it takes the place of the Sunday, and if one already attended it on Thursday wouldn’t that mean they already met their obligation?
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No, of course not. You would have met your obligation for Corpus Christi, but obviously not your Sunday obligation.
 
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For the record, both dates are the “true” date of Corpus Christi - one in the EF calendar and one in the OF calendar. Your terminology needs to be adjusted. The two forms of Mass follow different, equally valid calendars. Your question about Mass obligations has been addressed, but this needed clarified as well. One is not less than or somehow “posing as” the feast.
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No, this isn’t really an EF / OF thing

The EF has some feasts (like the Immaculate Conception) which have been moved to different dates by different dioceses. In both Calendars feasts were allowed to be moved in specific dioceses.

The true day for Corpus Christi is on Thursday. That’s when it will be celebrated at the Vatican in the Ordinary Form. However, some nations (like the United States) have been granted the right to move the observation of that feast to Sunday.

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Yah. That is true.
The Ordinary Form calendar in the United States would have it on Sunday but the official day is the Thursday after Trinity Sunday.
The same way with say Epiphany and Ascension. Officially Ephiphany January 6, and Acsension is the Thursday 40 days after the Resurrection. In local calendars that can be moved though with permission.
 
The point remains, these are still “true” dates even when different in two different locations, not lesser or substitutionary or stand-ins. They have been officially moved on the calendar by competent authorities making them official and “true” changes, regardless of whether I mislabeled my initial comment.
 
I mean yah they are both valid.
But it isn’t the real date.
They do it because they probably don’t want to burden people with all ten Holy Days of Obligation the Holy See recognizes.
So in that case it is moved and yah it is legit but it isn’t the true date. It is more the day observed. But the true day is Thursday.
 
Can. 1246. §1. Sunday, on which by apostolic tradition the paschal mystery is celebrated, must be observed in the universal Church as the primordial holy day of obligation. The following days must also be observed: the Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension, the Body and Blood of Christ, Holy Mary the Mother of God, her Immaculate Conception, her Assumption, Saint Joseph, Saint Peter and Saint Paul the Apostles, and All Saints.

§2. With the prior approval of the Apostolic See, however, the conference of bishops can suppress some of the holy days of obligation or transfer them to a Sunday.

So yah it is transferred but it isn’t the true day.
 
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Transfer makes Sunday the true day. It’s not like we know the actual date of the Ascension; they’re only as true as the Church has declared that we shall celebrate on X day. Thus, for some, Thursday is the “true” day while for others, it’s Sunday. The Canon you cite actually clarifies my point; the date is set by the Church, not actual historical event.
 
We do know the Ascension happened 40 days after the Resurrection. It says so in Acts 1. The Church teaches that.
Just because the Church allows a day to be observed another day doesn’t take away the fact it is traditionally observed on a certain day.
 
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I am going to a high mass for Corpus Christi in the EF on Thursday of next week, which is the true day Corpus Christi is celebrated.
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“True day”? That’s quite a claim… 🤔

Who gets to decide the “true day”? The Church? And if she sets Corpus Christi as a Sunday, doesn’t that make it a “true day”?
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Since in the OF Corpus Christi is celebrated on the following Sunday in the United States, do I still have to go to mass on Sunday? Technically I already went to the Corpus Christi Mass…
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Umm… you have to go to Mass every Sunday, regardless of the celebration. So… yes – you do have to go to Mass on Sunday.
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if one already attended it on Thursday wouldn’t that mean they already met their obligation?
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Not for the Sunday participation in Mass.
 
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