Question regarding Lenten fasting

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EasterJoy said:
The Octave of Christmas and the Octave of Easter being included as solemnities, for this purpose.
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Friday in the Octave of Easter is ranked as a Solemnity.

Friday in the Octave of Christmas generally is not – The exception being when, as this recent season, 1-Jan, the Solemnity of Mary the Mother of God, falls on the Friday.

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tee_eff_em said:
Friday in the Octave of Easter is ranked as a Solemnity.

Friday in the Octave of Christmas generally is not – The exception being when, as this recent season, 1-Jan, the Solemnity of Mary the Mother of God, falls on the Friday.

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Thank you!

(So, since you are a nerd-in-the-know, what is the difference between the Octave of Christmas and the Season of Christmas?)
 
EasterJoy said:
… what is the difference between the Octave of Christmas and the Season of Christmas?
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The Octave of Christmas is the first week, or “eight days” of Christmas, and is part of the entire Season of Christmas, which begins Christmas Eve and lasts until the day we observe the Baptism of the Lord.
 
quiet52 said:
The Octave of Christmas is the first week, or “eight days” of Christmas, and is part of the entire Season of Christmas, which begins Christmas Eve and lasts until the day we observe the Baptism of the Lord.
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That much, I get. Liturgically, what is the difference? How does Mass or the LOTH differ between the Octave of Christmas and the rest of the Season of Christmas (since the penitential nature of the Fridays is the same)?
 
Mrs_Sally said:
The Great Fast that the Orthodox undertake does eventually include cheese, milk, egss, even oil. They basically give up one additional thing each week, but I don’t know the order or any other details.
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Since you brought it up … 🙂 yesterday was Meatfare when we Byzantine Catholics, and Orthodox, ate meat for the last time til Pascha. Next Sunday is Cheesefare when we eat dairy and eggs, olive oil and wine for the last time. There are some exceptions, like the great Feast of the Annunciation when fish, oil and wine are allowed, and generally olive oil and wine are allowed on weekends. There’s a good explanation of the guidelines in the GENERAL RULES OF THE LENTEN FAST section here. Fasting (abstinence) is meant to be done with the counsel from one’s spiritual father/adviser. Lent for us begins on Monday after Forgiveness Sunday (Cheesefare), rather than Ash Wednesday. (I believe Fr Loya talked about Meatfare and the progression moving into Great Lent on his wonderful Light of the East radio program this past Sunday 2/7, but that program isn’t uploaded yet.)
 
EasterJoy said:
That much, I get. Liturgically, what is the difference? How does Mass or the LOTH differ between the Octave of Christmas and the rest of the Season of Christmas (since the penitential nature of the Fridays is the same)?
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I am not sure I understand the question? :confused: Can you rephrase or be more explicit?

tee
 
tee_eff_em said:
I am not sure I understand the question? :confused: Can you rephrase or be more explicit?

tee
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Vestments are white for the entire Season of Christmas, for instance, not just for the Octave of Christmas. As you pointed out, unlike the Octave of Easter and the Easter Season, there is no difference between the penitential nature of Fridays within the Octave of Christmas than there is in the Season of Christmas. My question is: since, unlike the Octave of Easter, the Octave of Christmas does not have the full character of a solemnity, what differentiates the Octave of Christmas from the Season of Christmas, liturgically speaking, other than it says one rather than another on the calendar? How would one know that one is celebrating a Friday in the Octave of Christmas, rather than a Friday in the Christmas Season, from what is or is not included the liturgies? How is the difference actually observed?
 
choy said:
correct me if i’m wrong, but meat is much cheaper nowadays than fish. compare a mcdonald’s hamburger to a filet-o-fish for one thing. even going to the gorcery store you’ll know that pound for pound, meat (especially pork and chicken) are cheaper than fish

in general, fish are more expensive unlike in Biblical times when its considered poor man’s food
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Friday is not a day of mandatory fish, it is just about abstinence from meat. Lentil soup for everybody! 👍
 
5Loaves said:
Since you brought it up … 🙂 yesterday was Meatfare when we Byzantine Catholics, and Orthodox, ate meat for the last time til Pascha. Next Sunday is Cheesefare when we eat dairy and eggs, olive oil and wine for the last time. There are some exceptions, like the great Feast of the Annunciation when fish, oil and wine are allowed, and generally olive oil and wine are allowed on weekends. There’s a good explanation of the guidelines in the GENERAL RULES OF THE LENTEN FAST section here. Fasting (abstinence) is meant to be done with the counsel from one’s spiritual father/adviser. Lent for us begins on Monday after Forgiveness Sunday (Cheesefare), rather than Ash Wednesday. (I believe Fr Loya talked about Meatfare and the progression moving into Great Lent on his wonderful Light of the East radio program this past Sunday 2/7, but that program isn’t uploaded yet.)
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Thanks for the details and the links!
 
Cristiano said:
Friday is not a day of mandatory fish, it is just about abstinence from meat. Lentil soup for everybody! 👍
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Yes exactly! We always have lentil soup on Christmas eve (which was traditionally a fast day) and on any chilly Friday. lol
 
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