Question regarding Time

[Little_One0307]

Hi CAF,

I was up at 0300 hrs last night and an interesting question camen up/

I was thinking about St. Augustine’s quote regarding time, “Time is a measure of change.”

If by God’s grace we make it to heaven, will we remember time? If we remember our past, then somehow we will remember time. Will time in this sense exist?

I am very interested in your thoughts on this one.

God bless.

 

[Myqyl]

No clue,

But from what I’ve heard of Saints and others that claim to have spent some “time” in heaven, time does not exist there. All events, past, present and future are “accessible” and “current”

If that makes any sense to you. you’re way ahead of me.

God bless

 

[nfreak141]

WHen you have a dream, is there time? Are you even AWARE that time exists? No?

That is how I think time is in heaven.

 

[Namwalker]

Hi CAF,

I was up at 0300 hrs last night and an interesting question camen up/

I was thinking about St. Augustine’s quote regarding time, “Time is a measure of change.”

If by God’s grace we make it to heaven, will we remember time? If we remember our past, then somehow we will remember time. Will time in this sense exist?

I am very interested in your thoughts on this one.

God bless.

People have been questioning this concept for such a long time. Like other posters have said time according to saints has no meaning.

There is also the earthly concept of time flies when you’re having fun. Somehow I think that earthly concept comes from above. Why? Just because. Can’t prove it, but I believe it.

 

[Krakatoa]

I have heard it expressed as: In Heaven (eternity), all time is present. There is no waiting.

 

[DianaCC]

For nonphysical intellectual beings like angels, time is measured not by physical change but by change in what they are thinking. An angel may be thinking about how hard to push Saturn to keep it going around the Earth one moment and then the holiness of God the next; for him there has been time but it’s impossible to say how long he spent in each thought, only that one was before and one was after. For us now, time is measured by motion such as the movement of the Sun around the Earth (day) or backwards through the stars (year), but after the resurrection our bodies will be capable of moving from point A to point B without having to pass through every point in between, so when we are in heaven or hell time for us will be more like the way time is for the angels but we will still grasp its passing because we will still be able to move the normal way too if we want.

 

[Jonesboy]

Hi CAF,

I was up at 0300 hrs last night and an interesting question camen up/

I was thinking about St. Augustine’s quote regarding time, “Time is a measure of change.”

If by God’s grace we make it to heaven, will we remember time? If we remember our past, then somehow we will remember time. Will time in this sense exist?

I am very interested in your thoughts on this one.

God bless.

I think Augustine, rightly, wants to get rid of time by reducing it to events. We never have dealings with any mooted “time”.

 

[bmonk]

It is difficult, in this life and limited by our experience, including time, to know what eternity and heaven will be like. “All that we can know about heaven is that it will be better than anything we know, or can imagine.” Will we know time in heaven? I don’t know.

I just hope for little things I can imagine, such as not needing to fear violence, or illness, not needing to carry a pound of keys around because people take things that they shouldn’t. Or the somewhat bigger things: being forever with God, or with people I love. Even a few of those make heaven a place definitely worth aspiring to.

For the rest, I trust and hope to find out some day.

 

[Little_One0307]

I have heard it expressed as: In Heaven (eternity), all time is present. There is no waiting.

I like this and can see how this can be. We will be united with God, and all time is present to Him.

I heard a priest say it will be like being in the Present Moment forever. I am not sure how to work this one in either.

God bless.

 

[Little_One0307]

Thanks for your responses guys.

You certainly have given me a lot to think of.

God bless.

 

[ddarko]

Hi CAF,

I was up at 0300 hrs last night and an interesting question camen up/

I was thinking about St. Augustine’s quote regarding time, “Time is a measure of change.”

If by God’s grace we make it to heaven, will we remember time? If we remember our past, then somehow we will remember time. Will time in this sense exist?

I am very interested in your thoughts on this one.

God bless.

By remember time, do you mean the concept of time because it does not exist anymore?

Because there is no reason to think time does not exist in heaven.

God Bless

 

[ddarko]

For nonphysical intellectual beings like angels, time is measured not by physical change but by change in what they are thinking. An angel may be thinking about how hard to push Saturn to keep it going around the Earth one moment and then the holiness of God the next; for him there has been time but it’s impossible to say how long he spent in each thought, only that one was before and one was after. For us now, time is measured by motion such as the movement of the Sun around the Earth (day) or backwards through the stars (year), but after the resurrection our bodies will be capable of moving from point A to point B without having to pass through every point in between, so when we are in heaven or hell time for us will be more like the way time is for the angels but we will still grasp its passing because we will still be able to move the normal way too if we want.

The thought process in this answer is very interesting. Thank you!

God Bless

 

[dedo]

Last week on the Science channel, Morgan Freeman narrated an interesting discussion on time for laymen (non-physics majors like me).

They will probably run it again. If you get that channel, you might find it interesting.

How we see time in Heaven may change because our perspective will change.

One analogy that Freeman used to explain how you see one dimension passing through another dimension is to imagine that you lived in a 2 dimensional world like a plane. Then you were looking at a ball passing through your flat world.

You would see a point, followed by an expanding circle. The circle would then decrease back to a point. You would not see the whole ball.

Time may only appear to be linear because we live in three dimensions, and that is all we can see as time passes through our dimensions. However, we know that gravity and speed both can change time, so time is not linear.

A physics major could explain it better.

In Heaven, our view will likely change because we may no longer be living in three dimensions, so we may be able to see the “whole ball”.

 

[Little_One0307]

By remember time, do you mean the concept of time because it does not exist anymore?

Because there is no reason to think time does not exist in heaven.

God Bless

I mean when we get to heaven, I am sure we will remember who people are and that we knew each other at one time. So to remember the past in heaven like this, one would have to have the concept of time to do this right?

It was a hard question to get the wording right. Sorry if I can’t express myself clearly on this.

God bless.

 

[Little_One0307]

Last week on the Science channel, Morgan Freeman narrated an interesting discussion on time for laymen (non-physics majors like me).

They will probably run it again. If you get that channel, you might find it interesting.

How we see time in Heaven may change because our perspective will change.

One analogy that Freeman used to explain how you see one dimension passing through another dimension is to imagine that you lived in a 2 dimensional world like a plane. Then you were looking at a ball passing through your flat world.

You would see a point, followed by an expanding circle. The circle would then decrease back to a point. You would not see the whole ball.

Time may only appear to be linear because we live in three dimensions, and that is all we can see as time passes through our dimensions. However, we know that gravity and speed both can change time, so time is not linear.

A physics major could explain it better.

In Heaven, our view will likely change because we may no longer be living in three dimensions, so we may be able to see the “whole ball”.

Kinda like the Flatland analogy. I love that book, this may make sense in regards to time.

God bless.

 

[paduard]

For nonphysical intellectual beings like angels, time is measured not by physical change but by change in what they are thinking. An angel may be thinking about how hard to push Saturn to keep it going around the Earth one moment and then the holiness of God the next; for him there has been time but it’s impossible to say how long he spent in each thought, only that one was before and one was after. For us now, time is measured by motion such as the movement of the Sun around the Earth (day) or backwards through the stars (year), but after the resurrection our bodies will be capable of moving from point A to point B without having to pass through every point in between, so when we are in heaven or hell time for us will be more like the way time is for the angels but we will still grasp its passing because we will still be able to move the normal way too if we want.

I thought that answer quite brilliant.