Question regarding vestments

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I am investigating the Brothers and Sisters of Charity, considering membership. I really like their charism and the ability to participate as a domestic member. I just have a small concern regarding their founder, John Michael Talbot. I have seen pictures of him in public wearing Franciscan vestments. Is this allowed? I believe he is married. I thought the USCCB had reserved this right to 1st and 2nd orders only. The heart of my concern is joining a community that submits to those placed as leaders over them.

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I understand your concern. I, too, thought it was a little strange that a married man was able to start a community and wear a habit.

The Brothers and Sisters of Charity is a ecumenical order, meaning you do not have to be Catholic to join it. They practice Franciscan simplicity and poverty, but are not part of the Franciscan order, nor do they practice the actual rule. Not only are married people a part of the order, but families and single persons. Their community is on Little Portion hermitage.

I recently read his book called “Lessons from St. Francis” and was interested in knowing more. I knew he was a musician, but I knew nothing more. I actually started a thread not too long ago on this same forum, entitled “Brothers and Sisters of Charity.”

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=348183

It’s under my other abandoned screename, LilFranciscan25. (I’m a Carmelite, not a Franciscan 😉 ).
 
The Brothers and Sistes of Charity are a Catholic community of diocesan right. They have the approval of the local bishop. Canonically, that’s all a religioius community needs to be established in the Church. Some communities are of Pontifical Right. They come under the Holy Father. But the Brothers and Sisters of Charity are diocesan.

However, they are not part of the Franciscan family, not for a bad reason. They simply wanted to combine the mysticism of St. Francis, St. Albert and St. Benedict. They are a community that has a “hybrid” spirituality, for lack of a better term.

As to the habit, yes a member of a community, even a third order or a secular order can wear a habit, as long as it is in the constitutions of the community. The bishops have no authority over that. That is an internal matter of the community. However, if the community is of diocesan right, the local bishop has to approve its constitutions. If there is a habit in the constitutions and the local bishop approves it, then it’s ok with the Church. The USCCB has no jurisdiction over any religious community or secular order. Secular Orders are all of Pontifical Right. Their constitutions are approved by the Holy See. Third orders can be either Pontifical or Diocesan.

For example, the Third Order Regular of St. Francis (TOR) is a religious order of Pontifical Right. They are friars who follow the rule that St. Francis wrote for the Secular Franciscans. But these tertiaries live in community, make solemn vows, are celibate and are subject only to the authority of the Holy Father and the Council of Franciscan Ministers General of which there are five: OFM, OFM Cap, OFM Conv, TOR, and OSF.

John Michael Talbot’s habit is a hermit’s habit. It is not a Franciscan habit. Even the old Franciscan habit is a hermit’s habit. It is actually modeled on the habit of the Carmelites. It is a tunic with a capuche and fastened at the waist. The Franciscans wear a chord and other religious wear a belt. Also the Franciscans have a choice in colors: brown, black, grey, blue and white. The color depends on the region, the culture, the climate and the material most easily available. Black is the most common color. The Capuchins and the OFMs wear brown. We see them a lot because of their large numbers. But most Franciscan communities wear black or grey. The Secular Franciscans in the USA wear the Tau, except for the Secular Franciscans of the Immaculata, they wear a habit of grey and blue or grayish blue. It’s up to the constitutions of the Secular Order, in this case, of the Association.

But they are a Public Association in the Catholic Church. I am not sure if they are ecumenical. I saw someone write that. But I was under the impression that one had to be Catholic to join the BSC.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF
 
+JMJT+

I believe I might have crossed the discernment information of the Brothers and Sisters of Charity with the Servants of the Sacred Cross (which I am sure is a ecumenical community). I was looking at the two topics on the same day. 😊

The Brothers and Sisters of Charity is a Catholic-based community from what their website says. 😉
 
I did some investigation and found the following.

The Brothers & Sisters of Charity is a Public Association of the Faithful in the diocese of Little Rock.

Before a group of the faithful is canonically approved as an institute of consecrated life (loosely, a religious order or community), it begins life as an association of the faithful.

Lay Catholics are free to form associations of the faithful which work toward the mission of the Church in some way. They can be public or private. Canons 298-329 treat them. I’ll mention only three.

Canon 298 §1. In the Church there are associations distinct from institutes of consecrated life and societies of apostolic life; in wthese associations the Christian faithful, either clerics, lay persons or clerics and lay persons together, strive in a common endeavor to foster a more perfect life, to promote public worship or Christian doctrine or to exercise other apostolic works, or to exercise other works of the apostolate such as initiatives of evangelization, works of piety or charity, and those which animate the temporal order with a Christian spirit. §2. The Christian faithful are to join especially those associations which competent ecclesiastical authority has erected, praised or recommended.

Canon 299 §1. The Christian faithful are free, by means of a private agreement made among themselves, to establish associations to attain the aims mentioned in can. 298,§1, with due regard for the prescriptions of can. 301,§1. §2. Such associations are called private associations even though they are praised or recommended by ecclesiastical authority. §3. No private association of the Christian faithful is recognized unless its statutes are reviewed by competent authority.

Canon 300 §1. Competent ecclesiastical authority alone has the right to erect associations of the Christian faithful which set out to teach Christian doctrine in the name of the Church or to promote public worship or which aim at other ends whose pursuit by their nature is reserved to the same ecclesiastical authority. §2. Competent ecclesiastical authority, if it judges it expedient, can also erect associations of the Christian faithful in order to attain directly or indirectly other spiritual ends whose accomplishment has not been sufficiently provided for by the efforts of private persons. §3. Associations of the Christian faithful which are erected by competent ecclesiastical authority are called public associations.

Such groups of the faithful can be de facto (people just get together and work toward some aspect of the mission but without a formal structure).

An assocation can also be found praiseworthy by Church authority after some kind of review.

In its most fixed or stable form, an association of the faithful can be erected by church authority.

An association “on its way” to seeking establishment as an institute of consecrated life whose members live out the evangelical counsels would develop its own constitution and statutes, and then the diocesan bishop or even the Holy See may give it approval and confirm its status.

Canon 576 It belongs to the competent authority of the Church to interpret the evangelical counsels, to regulate their practice by laws, to constitute therefrom stable forms of living by canonical approbation, and, for its part, to take care that the institutes grow and flourish according to the spirit of the founders and wholesome traditions.

These statutes may specify a common manner of attire (that is what a habit is). This association has to have some kind of distinctive charism and demonstrate its viability and usefulness to the Church. There are a number of criteria for determining this kind of viability. As I recall, there is a threshold of about 40 stable members, but I’d have to double check.

So even during a de facto stage, the members could agree to a common manner of attire without approval from a Church authority. But once it seeks recognition and establishment, those questions of attire as part of their proper law would be reviewed and subject to approval by competent authority. The BSC profess obedience to the pope and local bishops.

Then we would look at canon 669 §1. Religious are to wear the habit of the institute made according to the norm of proper law as a sign of their consecration and as a testimony of poverty. §2. Clerical religious of an institute which does not have its own habit are to wear clerical dress according to the norm of canon 284.

So, it appears all is well.

Thank you again for the information and all the help. I might not have found the answer otherwise.

PAX et Bonum
 
I’ll just add here that many religious communities are associations of the faithful:

Franciscans of the Renewal
Franciscan Missionaries of the Eternal Word
Dominican Sisters of Mary

Most religious communities remain Associations of the Faithful either under the jurisdiction of the bishop or the Holy See.

Some Associations of the Faithful also receive the added status of congregation.

There are no more religious communities given the status of Order.

The last of those was the Secular Francisans.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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