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Are we as catholics and christians in this generation meant to go by the 10 commandments that were given by moses to give to the jews.I have being contemplating this idea for a while now
I wonder why were the jews the chosen people of god?.In the time before the 10 commandments and after the 10 commandments,what were the other people doing.I mean how come the germans ,english,and all other people were not the chosen people of GOD.Did God not like them as much as the jews.Sorry if my question sounds a bit too much but i seriously as a christian wonder about these questions!!.In my heart i feel that the 10 commandments were for not just the jews but all of man kind.Well that is just my guess.I hope this is the right place to post these questions!.A freind of mine was telling me that the 10 commandments were only for the jews and never intended for us christians!.Thank you.
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St. Paul says that people other than the Jews were bound by the natural law, alias the Old Testament law, not to be mistaken for the laws of nature: “When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts . . .” (Rom. 2:14-15a).

2072 Since they express man’s fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations. They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. The Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.

There is the Old Testiment, with old testiment laws in the books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus, for the old chosen people. Laws such as those in purification rites, the washings, and those of clean and unclean food, and all sorts of other O.T. laws.

In the old, there are moral codes, and then there are the sacrificial/ritual codes

There is the New Testiment, with new testiment codes in the New Testiment books, for the new chosen people. Laws such as St. Paul mentioned in his letters about adultery, theft, etc. still enumerate the 10 commandments, tho not in order, the moral codes for christians.

The old covenant was circumcision bringing a person into the body of the chosen Jewish people under the old law and establishing an agreement to observe the Old Covenant with God.

The new covenant was baptism bringing a person into the body of the chosen Christian people under the new law and establishing an agreement to observe the new covenant with God.

Paul says, that the old law is unnessary, circumcision, but that the new law,baptism, now makes a person part of the new chosen people.

If this were not true, then we would be bound to all the old laws, such as washing our bodies after doing certain things, eating certain foods and avoiding others, sacrificing doves or oxen according to our financial being, and so on. Clearly, in the New Covenant with God, these laws are unnecessary and were abrogated with the comming of the New Law which Jesus Christ established with his death.

If we read the new testiment, the moral laws of the 10 commandments are in the new testiment in some form or another. They may not be enumerated or in order, but all of them are there.
Tho the moral code is maintained, the sacrificial and ritual codes of the old are not kept into the new testiment.

For Christians, Mark in 7;20 says, “Thus he delcared all foods clean.”

And in addition, there are those mandates in the sermon on the mount contained in the New.

Just some thoughts.
 
fred_conty said:
St. Paul says that people other than the Jews were bound by the natural law, alias the Old Testament law, not to be mistaken for the laws of nature: “When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts . . .” (Rom. 2:14-15a).

2072 Since they express man’s fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations. They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. The Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.

There is the Old Testiment, with old testiment laws in the books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus, for the old chosen people. Laws such as those in purification rites, the washings, and those of clean and unclean food, and all sorts of other O.T. laws.

In the old, there are moral codes, and then there are the sacrificial/ritual codes

There is the New Testiment, with new testiment codes in the New Testiment books, for the new chosen people. Laws such as St. Paul mentioned in his letters about adultery, theft, etc. still enumerate the 10 commandments, tho not in order, the moral codes for christians.

The old covenant was circumcision bringing a person into the body of the chosen Jewish people under the old law and establishing an agreement to observe the Old Covenant with God.

The new covenant was baptism bringing a person into the body of the chosen Christian people under the new law and establishing an agreement to observe the new covenant with God.

Paul says, that the old law is unnessary, circumcision, but that the new law,baptism, now makes a person part of the new chosen people.

If this were not true, then we would be bound to all the old laws, such as washing our bodies after doing certain things, eating certain foods and avoiding others, sacrificing doves or oxen according to our financial being, and so on. Clearly, in the New Covenant with God, these laws are unnecessary and were abrogated with the comming of the New Law which Jesus Christ established with his death.

If we read the new testiment, the moral laws of the 10 commandments are in the new testiment in some form or another. They may not be enumerated or in order, but all of them are there.
Tho the moral code is maintained, the sacrificial and ritual codes of the old are not kept into the new testiment.

For Christians, Mark in 7;20 says, “Thus he delcared all foods clean.”

And in addition, there are those mandates in the sermon on the mount contained in the New.

Just some thoughts.
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Thank you, Fred conty for a perfect answer.👍
I understand now.What a perfect answer you have given me.In my final thoughts to this thread i think Jesus came to give forgiveness,understanding and to stop stoning and to see all of us as children and to love rather than harsh judgments …for example instead of killing a women for prostituation or some imoral sexual act,jesus wants us to forgive forget and accept that person again once they understand there sin and honestly want to repent and start a fresh clean life.Yes if we all keep the commandments as the moral code for are lives in this generation we will be closer to the kingdom of heaven.
 
catholicsaint said:
Are we as catholics and christians in this generation meant to go by the 10 commandments that were given by moses to give to the jews.I have being contemplating this idea for a while now
I wonder why were the jews the chosen people of god?.In the time before the 10 commandments and after the 10 commandments,what were the other people doing.I mean how come the germans ,english,and all other people were not the chosen people of GOD.Did God not like them as much as the jews.Sorry if my question sounds a bit too much but i seriously as a christian wonder about these questions!!.In my heart i feel that the 10 commandments were for not just the jews but all of man kind.Well that is just my guess.I hope this is the right place to post these questions!.A freind of mine was telling me that the 10 commandments were only for the jews and never intended for us christians!.Thank you.
Catholicsaint.
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To be polite, your friend doesn’t know what he is talking about. Haven’t you looked at the Catechism of the Catholic Church? About 1/4 of it deals with the Ten Commandments. Yes you have to obey them. They were intended for all people, not just the Israelites.

The Catechism - vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM 👍
 
Thank you, Linusthe2nd, good answer.I think my freind was being cruel to me, telling me lies:mad:
 
catholicsaint said:
Thank you, Fred conty for a perfect answer.👍
I understand now.What a perfect answer you have given me.In my final thoughts to this thread i think Jesus came to give forgiveness,understanding and to stop stoning and to see all of us as children and to love rather than harsh judgments …for example instead of killing a women for prostituation or some imoral sexual act,jesus wants us to forgive forget and accept that person again once they understand there sin and honestly want to repent and start a fresh clean life.Yes if we all keep the commandments as the moral code for are lives in this generation we will be closer to the kingdom of heaven.
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Not that it matters for this discussion, but according to Jewish law, to inflict the death penalty is almost impossible. Two eyewitnesses must have seen the perpetrator about to commit the crime and warned him of the potential penalty. The murderer must verbally answer that he chooses to proceed anyway. Twenty-three, rather than the usual three judges, must sit on the rabbinical court, among other requirements; circumstantial evidence is never allowed in a Jewish court hearing a capital case, and a person cannot testify against themselves.

Similarly, a court that executed once in 70 years was referred to as a bloody court. As such, how many times do you suppose the death penalty was carried out?

There are times when G-d would phrase things in such a way to make us understand the severity of the crime without really demanding harsh punishment. It’s a method of education.

In terms of forgiving and forgetting, our stress is on repentance, which does include forgiving afterwards, but never forgetting- because forgetting could lead to repeating the sin.
 
YKohen, Do jewish people today follow the 10 commandments?? Just interested to know since we are going on different topics here,
thank you,
catholicsaint.
 
catholicsaint said:
YKohen, Do jewish people today follow the 10 commandments?? Just interested to know since we are going on different topics here,
thank you,
catholicsaint.
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We’re certainly supposed to- and much more. For us, there are 613 commandments.

I would feel bad to hijack this thread. If you want, we can start another elsewhere.
 
catholicsaint said:
Are we as Catholics and Christians in this generation meant to go by the 10 commandments that were given by Moses to give to the Jews.
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Yes.
I wonder why were the Jews the chosen people of god? In the time before the 10 commandments and after the 10 commandments,what were the other people doing.
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The Jews were the only ones worshiping the true God. Other peoples had multiple pagan gods.
 
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