Question... women only please

[Zoe_Brain]

I would suggest looking into this since birth control pills are very bad for the body

YMMV there. Some are really bad. Others are harmless in therapeutic doses. Not all BC pills are created equal, no two of them have the same formula, and they may contain totally different chemicals.

I’m intersexed, and since the removal of all my (dysfunctional) sex glands, I have to take HRT to remain healthy, including some to suppress some anomalous adrenal hormone production.

Ideally, an endo would order weekly blood tests for a month or two to determine your cycle, and what’s missing and what’s in excess at each point. Then prescribe on that basis, either over-riding the cycle to reset it if it’s badly awry, or working with it and “tuning” it if the problem is minor. In some cases, an MRI of the pit fossa to make sure there’s no benign prolactemia is useful. In others, a pelvic ultrasound to eliminate PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) as an issue.

BC pills are simple and cheap: but they may either be very effective and completely safe, or ineffective if of the wrong type, as most of them are. Depending on where you live, such drugs as Cyproterone Acetate may be good, though that has side-effects in 1/3 of cases, so should be monitored closely for the first 3 months. That is not an FDA approved drug, but the alternatives that are are worse.

Note: I have zero medical qualifications - but I have taught med students (at their professors’ invitation) about this, as it’s an area I’ve had to learn about for my own health.

Zoe

 

[Inwe86]

YMMV there. Some are really bad. Others are harmless in therapeutic doses. Not all BC pills are created equal, no two of them have the same formula, and they may contain totally different chemicals.

I’m intersexed, and since the removal of all my (dysfunctional) sex glands, I have to take HRT to remain healthy, including some to suppress some anomalous adrenal hormone production.

Ideally, an endo would order weekly blood tests for a month or two to determine your cycle, and what’s missing and what’s in excess at each point. Then prescribe on that basis, either over-riding the cycle to reset it if it’s badly awry, or working with it and “tuning” it if the problem is minor. In some cases, an MRI of the pit fossa to make sure there’s no benign prolactemia is useful. In others, a pelvic ultrasound to eliminate PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) as an issue.

BC pills are simple and cheap: but they may either be very effective and completely safe, or ineffective if of the wrong type, as most of them are. Depending on where you live, such drugs as Cyproterone Acetate may be good, though that has side-effects in 1/3 of cases, so should be monitored closely for the first 3 months. That is not an FDA approved drug, but the alternatives that are are worse.

Note: I have zero medical qualifications - but I have taught med students (at their professors’ invitation) about this, as it’s an area I’ve had to learn about for my own health.

Zoe

What’s wrong with taking something natural as opposed to something artificial? Natural progesterone cream is completely harmless, has no side effects, doesn’t cost a lot of money, and is effective (I’m speaking from experience here - I have PCOS).

I’ve had many good doctors tell me that ALL BC pills are bad because HRT is bad.

Obviously in your case you need to do HRT, but your case sounds rare. Irregular periods is actually a common problem today due to the excessive intake of estrogen (even in soy).

 

[Inwe86]

www.homefirst.com

This article is just disturbing:
catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=24681

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/10/27/birth-control-part-two.aspx
Although I don’t agree about the condom part

catholic.org/prwire/headline.php?ID=7876

upi.com/Health_News/2009/10/26/Birth-control-pills-can-double-stroke-risk/UPI-53751256592051/

wddty.com/hrt-more-bad-news.html

Artificial hormones are just bad for the human body.

Birth control pills only mask problems, whereas natural progesterone can actually help to treat the problem.

 

[Zoe_Brain]

What’s wrong with taking something natural as opposed to something artificial? Natural progesterone cream is completely harmless, has no side effects, doesn’t cost a lot of money, and is effective (I’m speaking from experience here - I have PCOS)

It’s also chemically identical to the hormone produced in your own body. That it was synthesized by a wild yam rather than your own glands is immaterial.

Micronised progesterone may be more effective, as the dose in progesterone cremes is rather small, and can vary: but if you only need a little, as many do, cremes are adequate, safe, and cheap.

Steer clear of various progesterols, progestogen, progestin etc etc. and especially Medroxyprogesterone acetate (provera). The breakdown products of those are not normally found in the human body, and can cause severe clinical depression.

The point is though that you know more than the endos about your own body. A good endocrinologist will encourage you to find out for yourself what’s best in your individual circumstances.

Zoe

 

[Inwe86]

It’s also chemically identical to the hormone produced in your own body. That it was synthesized by a wild yam rather than your own glands is immaterial.

Micronised progesterone may be more effective, as the dose in progesterone cremes is rather small, and can vary: but if you only need a little, as many do, cremes are adequate, safe, and cheap.

Steer clear of various progesterols, progestogen, progestin etc etc. and especially Medroxyprogesterone acetate (provera). The breakdown products of those are not normally found in the human body, and can cause severe clinical depression.

The point is though that you know more than the endos about your own body. A good endocrinologist will encourage you to find out for yourself what’s best in your individual circumstances.

Zoe

Yeah, the dose is small, but it did do the trick for me. I was TERRIBLY irregular! I was lucky if I had a period every 3 months. Like I had said before, one time I went over a year without a period I have PCOS and endometriosis

But, since I did the cream treatment, it seems to have fixed a lot of my problems. I’ve been regular since May '07

I would suggest giving the cream a try. It’ll take a few months to notice results, but it’s worth trying. If all else fails, I guess your only option will be BC pills. The problem with this though is that if you want to get married, you’ll have to stop taking them, and your periods will become irregular.

Good luck on finding a successful treatment.

 

[ryecroft]

I don’t usually respond to certain members comments but I thought I should sound off on this whole estrogen scare thing. The studies show that the estrogen effect some forms of trout - and I will give a quote:
*Heather Trim, the Urban Bays and Toxics Program Manager at the People for Puget Sound in Washington, warns women that there is no evidence in the United States of the human impact of contaminated estrogen water and that women should not discard their pills just yet.

“Estrogen is also found in products like hair straighteners and plastics,” said Trim. “It’s not necessarily just birth control.”*

Also, as soon as NCR heard about this possibility, they jumped on the band wagon like apparently some of the posters here did and actually called birth control pills “poison”. The answer, there seems to be some agreement with non Catholic entities that there may need to be an upgrade in the wast management of water if this is truely seen to be a concern. So don’t just throw out your pills yet.
BTW I’ve had to use the pill for the oposite reason of the poster - the pill helps to keep me from having monthlies that last months. I’ve had surgeries and gone to various doctors including Catholic ones and there is no deffinate reason that can be found.

God Bless and I always try to find who sponsored certain studies or who said what. More often than not you’ll find there’s a deffinate bias.

God Bless
Ryecroft

 

[ryecroft]

Yeah, the dose is small, but it did do the trick for me. I was TERRIBLY irregular! I was lucky if I had a period every 3 months. Like I had said before, one time I went over a year without a period I have PCOS and endometriosis

But, since I did the cream treatment, it seems to have fixed a lot of my problems. I’ve been regular since May '07

I would suggest giving the cream a try. It’ll take a few months to notice results, but it’s worth trying. If all else fails, I guess your only option will be BC pills. The problem with this though is that if you want to get married, you’ll have to stop taking them, and your periods will become irregular.

Good luck on finding a successful treatment.

Actually, it’s not quite true - I can dig up if you want what Fr. Serpa said regarding women that take the pill for medical reasons who do get married and have conjugal relations. Basically he said that it is still allowed even with theassertion that some birth control pills may be an abortifacient.
I’m still waiting for some form of study to come out proving that the BCP is an abortifacient and I did have a friend tell me that PPH is planning to try to have a study done. Of course I would have preferred if the study was done with a non biased entity but we may have to take what we can get. I’m still trying to figure out how they’ll test this.
God Bless
Ryecroft

 

[Seatuck]

You would think the FDA would require the study be done since they are allowing the companies to advertise this mechanism of action.

 

[adelore]

Years ago, when I was on birth control pills, for less than a year…the paper insert that comes with the packet…does say all the warnings, side effects…and yes years ago the paper did say that the BCP will cause a women to loose the “fetus” (is the word they used) if she becomes pregnant, or it could cause severe physical/mental damage for the fetus if allowed to come to term.

Some of the othere side effects listed from the pill to the women taking them can be: brain hemorage, broken veins in your brain, stroke, heart failer, eye damage, (I know the pill damaged my eyes). blood clots, and the list goes on.

Don’t they put this folded up paper in the packets anymore? If so read them and also do a google search on the “type” of birth control pill someone may be taking. The Drug Store that fills these prescriptions also has to give a person a “printed” paper that list side effects…ect.

Not to stand up for the BCP, but really it’s not just the BCP that’s causing problems with our water supply. Look at all the chemicals that Manufactering Plants are dumping into the water. What about all the chemicals put on our crops? Our dumps are full of “leaking” old oil container, hazmat containers, ect. These things leak down into the ground and also affect our water supply. Many people dump their old unused Prescriptions down the drain or in the toliet…the list goes on and on, it’s not just the BCP that is hurting our water supply, to point out or pick on just “one thing” isn’t really fair. Househould cleaners and bleach, that goes down the drain…Again I’m not for the BCP, but there is so much more hurting our water supply.

My heart goes out to you ladies who are having problems and your doctors have you on the BCP. I know your problems are real and that “relief” is very important to you.

In todays world many people don’t have the benifit of “health ins.” and to be able to go to a specialest isn’t even a consideration to some. After all, not everyone can afford an out of pocket expense like that.

But if you can…and you do have health ins…by all mans do go to a specialest…the BCP is not the answer, I agree with the others it just “mask” the real underlying problem.

And yes it’s ok to take the BCP, if one is not using it to prevent a pregency.

 

[Bluegoat]

No, you are supposed to find a doctor who will treat the cause of your illness, not give you a pill that masks the symptoms.

As for the water supply, do the research - see the way infertility is increasing, fish in areas are becoming all female - it is scary what the pill is doing to our water.

I think you are being a little too definite about this. It is good advice to advise women on the pill for reasons like this to seek out more comprehensive solutions that get to the cause of the problem. Because it is true, long term use of the pill this way is not correcting the problem and many doctors really don’t look into it properly.

However, it may be that the problem is not correctable, and that the symptoms warrant treatment. We give medications all the time that don’t correct the root of the problem - for blood pressure, cholesterol, schizophrenia… a thousand disorders. But people don’t make the same kind of moral judgments about these cases.

As for fish - this is not just because of artificial hormones from medications. Equally if not more to blame are plastics which mimic them, like the kind used to line tin cans, or in tupperware, water bottles, and toys.

 

[vera_dicere]

I have a medical condition which could be cleared up simply by taking the Pill but I won’t.

For me, its about the intention that created the pill. It wasn’t crafted by people wanting to fix the problem I’ve got. It was crafted to be counter-life. I view it the same way I view vaccines that come from cells from aborted foeti. Something “good” that came from something truly evil.

As it stands, I guess its up to everyone how they view the situation.

However, there are other medications that I can take, and am taking to sort this issue.

And, the health issues the Pill can cause are worse then most people think. They are known to cause breast and cervical cancer. For every year you are on the pill your risk of breast cancer increased by 10% (I’ll have to hunt down the study as I saw that in a physical book).

What the pill can do is actually quite frightening. I’ve read a book called “the bitter pill” written by a scientist who helped study and test the PIll when it came out in the 50s and 60s and it makes for scary reading.