Questions about being Catholic

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It kind of is, but I also think any large organization benefits from some diversity of viewpoints. Kind of how the USA uses the states as laboratories for experimentation with different policies.
 
At the end of the day, two opposing viewpoints cannot be both right. That organization cannot run smoothly while maintaining both positions. If only the issue was as benign as chocolate or strawberry ice cream in the work cafeteria…
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Do all Catholics have to fall in line with either a conservative or liberal ideology? I would like to think the Holy Spirit created a Church in which people with a wide range of opinions can balance each other out with dialogue.
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There is no inherent good in “dialog” without the end goal being truth. I mean, who wants to argue about whether 2+2=7 or 2+2=5? Which of the Catholic viewpoints do you believe to be false?
 
Be the change you want to see in your diocese.
As Catholics, we are salt and light, not people who run to xyz church that aligns with your beliefs.
Allow yourself to be challenged, and to challenge others.
Don’t form an echo chamber of your beliefs. Discuss, find and make friendships with people with dissenting opinions.
 
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How can you even possibly reconcile being pro choice and Catholic?

Gay marriage? Sure… Universal healthcare? Sure…

But killing babies before they are born is just about as barbaric and anti Christian as it gets.
 
There is no such thing as a progressive Catholic. Just a misinformed Catholic.
 
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Right. Being “politically progressive” is one thing- you can support liberal policies on immigration and the economy and such- but you can’t say that you’re a Catholic when you reject the authority of the church and believe other churches are “just as correct”.
 
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who believes Anglican, Lutheran and other Protestant sacraments and orders to be valid, as per Declaration On The Way;

who believes women should be deacons and have positions of leadership in the Church

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and who sees global warming as a more fundamental life issue than abortion since ALL unborn children will die if they don’t have a planet to be born on.
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Okay, time out- lots of issues here. First off, you’re OP is confusing. Are these things you actually, personally believe? Or are you just using these as examples?
 
I don’t think the OP said he or she was pro-choice. The OP just said that global warming is a more serious issue than abortion. Which of course has problems in my opinion.

But first, I want to say I agree with some of what the OP said. I’m against the death penalty (and I go to the Latin Mass). I’m against nuclear war also (I hope most people are actually). But saying global warming is a more important life issue than abortion is kind of misleading. For Global Warming, no one is intentionally trying to pump up global warming to kill people. Folks might be doing it to make a profit on their companies (“We need more coal burning to keep our plants going.”) But no one is saying they want to kill anyone. Abortion on the other hand is a completely different story. There are people honestly wanting to end the life of the baby.

The difference is like if there was a man whose friend is on his lawn paralyzed. The paralyzed man can’t get off the owner’s lawn so the owner kills the paralyzed man. The other situation is like pumping smog into the air because the smog is a result of good business ventures. The smog might kills folks in the future but he isn’t meaning to kill anyone in the future because of it. Is he dumb for doing this. Obviously. But he is not actively killing anyone. I think the active killing of someone is a more fundamental life issue than a indirect, unintentional “killing”.

And as for the disagreement with Humanae Vitae. It is part of the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church. You might disagree, but you must follow it unless it leads you to sin. I disagree with Amoris Laetitia but I must follow it because it is part of the Ordinary Magisterium unless it leads me to sin. Part of being a Catholic.
 
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Reading over your OP a bit more, I’d like to help you out a bit.

What makes you “progressive” ? Was it the opinions of those who do not believe in the a Catholic faith, who don’t give it a thought in their day? Perhaps it would help you to understand the perspective of the majority of faithful Catholics more. Look into Church history, the opinions of the holy saints, their thoughts, their personalities. It really helps to give an idea of the Church attitude through time towards certain ideas. Look into modern condemned heresies. Americanism was condemned by Pope Leo XIII. Modernism is also incompatible with Catholicism.

Abortion is intrinsically wrong. No matter what. Allowing or supporting any sin does no good for the person; it is actually considered uncharitable.

https://www.osv.com/OSVNewsweekly/S...m-condemned-as-synthesis-of-all-heresies.aspx
 
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Hi misstherese. My suggestion would be to listen to good Catholic apologists like Patrick Madrid who you can listen to on the phone app Relevant Radio usually on AM radio stations as well. He tends to have sound Catholic teaching and reasoning that I think you will respect. I hope you read what the catechism says about abortion and homosexual marriage. More importantly, I hope you have friends in your life that can express that Catholic teaching by example.
 
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I recommend being Catholic without any qualifiers.

Also, this list reads like someone spent a while lurking in the English-speaking Catholic web and jotting down a bunch of stuff to trigger people. All that’s missing is a bit on modesty.
 
It is clear from your post that you do not conform to several very important Catholic doctrines. You cannot claim to be a practicing Catholic, properly speaking, if you believe contraception is moral, you believe that non-Catholic orders and sacraments are valid, and you vote for pro-death political candidates. There’s more in your post to point out, but I think it unnecessary.

I’m sorry, but the Catholic Church will not, and should not, conform to you. You must conform to it. And somehow I find it more likely that all of the Fathers and great Saints of the Church got it right, than that a prodigy (yourself) has suddenly risen out of nowhere to correct all of the Church’s incorrect doctrines.

If you cannot bring yourself to conform to the Church’s teaching, then ask yourself: do you believe God founded the Catholic Church on this Earth? If so, is it wise to reject the teachings of that Church which God founded, and which He promised He would never allow to fail?

Tread very, very carefully - your soul is on the line.
 
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