Questions About Bible Versions

[JackQ]

You are speaking of the Council of Nicene and that was not wholly Catholic and not till later in history did the Catholic church “pick and choose” the parts they liked and discarded that which they did not like and not until then was this considered ecumenical - helps to put all the facts out; least you give the wrong historical context for the purposes of your own personal agenda.

The church before the council was already using the books that became and were recognized as inspired and some books in both the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches disagree on certain books, which are known not to be inspired because of the historical, chronological, contextual and theological errors; my God is not the God of error and I hope we have the same god. The obvious reason for the late inclusion is the response to the charges laid against the Roman Catholic Church, such as praying to dead saints, the fleshly dead saints.

The council was not necessary to even declare what was inspired or not because the churches were already using them, but it was beneficial to do so. Also, since God had promised to preserve His word; regardless it was purposed by God and therefore it was already a “done deal”, as the phrase goes.

God bless all of you this day. S69

How do you know these books contain errors?

 

[JackQ]

The authorized 1611 KJV contains the Apocryphal Books, but it notes they are not inspired and for devotional purposes, which is historically accurate as to how they were used by many churches; so in essence it provides the evidence that early churches recognized they were not inspired, which is why I said in the previous post we do not have a God who has given a written word with error.

How would something printed in 1611 give evidence of how these books were used in the early Church?

 

[Sonny69]

How would something printed in 1611 give evidence of how these books were used in the early Church?

You will not find any quotes, unless you make a real stretch, referred to by any writers nor the author of Scripture the Holy Spirit. Ask yourself, why only certain books and not all 14were included and why it took 1200 years later and what was going on around that era? Why do Eastern orthodox, who make many of the same claims as the Roman Catholic Church, not include the same books?

As far as error, just do a google search on errors contained in the Apocrypha and you will find, historic, chronological and doctrinal errors.

 

[Sonny69]

Really? Better check your facts again.
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Praise God for allowing the publishing of the Bible in the venacular to open the flood gates unto salvation for the lay people, Luther for the German translation & for Henry the VIII and others for commissioning the bible into English; for it lifted the church of Christ out of the dark ages when the people saw and understood what it meant by what it said by the power of the Holy Spirit as it is written. Hebrews 4:12 states: " For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” AMEN!!

 

[T_More]

Praise God for allowing the publishing of the Bible in the venacular to open the flood gates unto salvation for the lay people, Luther for the German translation & for Henry the VIII and others for commissioning the bible into English; for it lifted the church of Christ out of the dark ages when the people saw and understood what it meant by what it said by the power of the Holy Spirit as it is written. Hebrews 4:12 states: " For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” AMEN!!

Sonny, you do realize that Luther was not the first to translate the bible into German? Or that there were other English transaltions before Henry VIII?

 

[RedSoxFan]

Sonny69,

It all comes down to inspiration in the biblical texts. The only problem is that there is no consensus as to what “inspiration” means. People in the Church have disagreed with which texts were inspired and which ones weren’t. Origen was a fan of Tobit, and he lived in the early Christian period before Islam swept over North Africa and the Middle East. The Orthodox have often differed in opinion with us in the West over just about everything concerning praxis and the occasional issue about orthodoxy.

Perhaps this might be a good occasion to study the history of the scriptures. Check out the early issues such as why the gnostic Gospel of Thomas was left out of the canon or why the respected Didache was also not included into the canons at the time. Perhaps then you could read about the middle ages and dark ages. Perhaps Thomas Cahill’s book How the Irish Saved Civilization might be a good read.

You might also want to ask yourself if it is more important to talk about Jesus or write (as the printing press wasn’t around for much of the “dark ages” before Protestantism) bibles in regional languages when the overwhelming majority of people were illiterate?