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Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
 
That is a common misapprehension about purgatory. The teaching of the Church is that it is for the remission of the temporal punishment due to sin. IOW, the sin was indeed forgiven, but there is still a wounding that needs to heal, and may not have been accomplished in this life time. BTW, that is also what indulgences are for. 🙂
 
That is a common misapprehension about purgatory. The teaching of the Church is that it is for the remission of the temporal punishment due to sin. IOW, the sin was indeed forgiven, but there is still a wounding that needs to heal, and may not have been accomplished in this life time. BTW, that is also what indulgences are for. 🙂
So it is time that heals that wounding? Is there a biblical reference to this understanding?
 
Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
Hi Billy,
I am reproducing what I posted on another thread and hope it answers your question:

What needs cleansing through purgation is ‘sinfulness’; our ‘sins’ are washed by the blood of our Lord.

The Mosaic Law had largely been misused as a stick to beat people with and the emphasis was on imposing severe penalties for sin while doing nothing about its cause. Our Lord was the first to exhort people to deal with the cause rather than punish the effect. This can be easily inferred from the below quoted verses:
“You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. (Matt 5:21-22a)

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. ’But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart". (Matt 5: 27-28)

‘The wage of sin is death’ and we rightly deserve hell for our sins; our redemption from eternal damnation is made possible only because our Lord’s suffering and death. To become a beneficiary of our Lord’s supreme sacrifice we must: (i) believe in Him and (ii) keep His love command and forgive our offenders.

True, that forgiveness cancels our eternal punishment; but what about our sinful nature? Even if we were to be forgiven 70 times 7, can we be sure that we will stop sinning? Meditatively read what our Lord said in this regard:* “If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. ‘For everyone will be salted with fire’.”* (Mk 9:43, 49)

To enter life is to enter heaven. To get there our carnal nature must die; this is achieved through suffering. “Through much suffering we must enter into the kingdom of God”. (Acts 14:22b)

There are two distinct dimensions to our struggle for salvation – escaping Hell through forgiveness of sins and gaining Heaven through freedom from slavery to sin.

Escaping Hell: God sacrificed His only Son to suffer and die on the cross as expiation for our sins. By forgiving our offenders we receive absolution for all our sins which constitute the main hurdle.
Gaining heaven: To stop sinning is humanly impossible and yet our helplessness is not futility for our God is ‘the help of the helpless’ Whose power is made perfect in our weakness. The battle is truly His and we only have to show our love by refusing to remain slaves and struggling.** Freedom is achieved through complete purging of our sinful nature by our own sufferings which can only increase manifold if avoided now and kept for purgation after death.** When we suffer we come to our senses and our spiritual vision is restored and we know the truth. Truth sets us free from the bondage to sin and we stop sinning as Satan cannot deceive us anymore. *“Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” *(John 8:32)
 
So it is time that heals that wounding? Is there a biblical reference to this understanding?
Not time itself, but the repentance done in time that heals the wounds. See the Catechism of the Catholic Church for biblical quotes.

This is the repentance that Jesus and St. John the Baptist preached. Repentance is understood as a conversion or change of heart that is manifested in action.
 
Jesus died for a couple of reasons:
  1. To save those who begged for forgiveness in hell and bring them to Heaven.
  2. To open the gates of heaven
  3. So God would prove his love to us.
Purgatory:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a “purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven,” which is experienced by those “who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified” (CCC 1030). It notes that “this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1031).
The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments
When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that “it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment” (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be. At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5).

Fundamentalists may be fond of saying the Catholic Church “invented” the doctrine of purgatory to make money, but they have difficulty saying just when. Most professional anti-Catholics—the ones who make their living attacking “Romanism”—seem to place the blame on Pope Gregory the Great, who reigned from A.D. 590–604.
But that hardly accounts for the request of Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not benefit from prayers, as would be the case if she were in hell or in the full glory of heaven.
Nor does ascribing the doctrine to Gregory explain the graffiti in the catacombs, where Christians during the persecutions of the first three centuries recorded prayers for the dead. Indeed, some of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, like the Acts of Paul and Thecla and the Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (both written during the second century), refer to the Christian practice of praying for the dead. Such prayers would have been offered only if Christians believed in purgatory, even if they did not use that name for it. (See Catholic Answers’ Fathers Know Best tract The Existence of Purgatory for quotations from these and other early Christian sources.)

Those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.
Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

Some Fundamentalists also charge, as though it actually proved something, “The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture.” This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren’t in Scripture either, yet those doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.
Christ refers to the sinner who “will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come” (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? “He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering (“fire”) there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.

Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for “nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, “unclean.” Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.
 
My two cents:

When our first parents sinned, there followed two primary consequences: 1) the penalty of damnation, which the Cross was intended to and did remit, and 2) expulsion fron the Garden, which entailed all earthly suffering, which the Cross obviously did not remit, since christians still suffer in this life. As we know, some very moral believers suffer a lot in this life, and some real scoundrels seem to live it up, even if they die in a state of faith. Jesus addressed this inequity in His parable about the rich man and Lazarus. Whatever remains in the order of temporal justice to be suffered needs to be done after death. No more a contradiction of the Cross than suffering before death is. 🙂
 
…So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?
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If Jesus had not died and made reparation for our sins, there would be no Purgatory. There would be no Purgatory or Heaven possible for us; only Hell. You might say Jesus’ death made Purgatory possible - just as it made heaven possible.
 
Jesus died for a couple of reasons:
1) To save those who begged for forgiveness in hell and bring them to Heaven.
  1. To open the gates of heaven
  2. So God would prove his love to us.
Regarding your first reason given above (bolded):
Those who are condemned to hell cannot be saved and brought to heaven. Repentance and forgiveness of grave sin is no longer possible for those in hell.

If by “hell” you are referring to the “place of the dead” where those who died prior to Jesus’ sacrifice went, it’s best to state that specifically so there is no confusing it with what “hell” now means (since Jesus’ death).
 
Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
Others have already given much better answers than I could - but my “off the cuff” thought when I read you question (bolded above) was - “So that the souls would have someplace to go when they were finished with purgation”. Basically this speaks to the idea of Jesus opening the gates of heaven that had been closed since the Fall of man.

Peace
James
 
Regarding your first reason given above (bolded):
Those who are condemned to hell cannot be saved and brought to heaven. Repentance and forgiveness of grave sin is no longer possible for those in hell.

If by “hell” you are referring to the “place of the dead” where those who died prior to Jesus’ sacrifice went, it’s best to state that specifically so there is no confusing it with what “hell” now means (since Jesus’ death).
I was assuming by “Hell” he meant “place of the dead”/Hades/Sheol/Bosom of Abraham. Its confusing in its own right as the Apostle’s Creed is sometimes translated into Hell or Hades or to the Dead.
 
If Jesus had not died and made reparation for our sins, there would be no Purgatory. There would be no Purgatory or Heaven possible for us; only Hell. You might say Jesus’ death made Purgatory possible - just as it made heaven possible.
Hmmm…never thought about it that way. Nice point!
 
Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
It might help if we said explicitly what you already know to be true: there are only two ultimate destinations – Heaven and Hell – and we will all go to one or the other. The thing is, some of us will have to stop in Purgatory on the way to Heaven.

We don’t know what Purgatory will be like. All we know is that some of us will die destined for Heaven (thanks be to God) but still be impure (because of venial sin); and “Nothing impure will ever enter it [Heaven], nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.” Rev. 21:27.

So, obviously, we will have to be cleansed before we can enter Heaven. We don’t know whether that will be an instantaneous event or an ongoing process. We think that it will be painful (in the pulling-an-abcessed-tooth sense, not in the I-think-I’ll-pull-out-the-bullwhip-now sense), based on various Scriptures (such as Paul saying that some will be saved, “though as through fire”), but that isn’t certain.

(Imagine for a second a child of two atheists who finds Jesus and is baptized. Then, on leaving the church following baptism, the new Christian bumps into his parents, and an argument ensues. During the course of that argument, the child screams something to the effect of “I’m a Christian, and you can’t ever take that away from me, so @#$%$# off!” He is immediately filled with remorse and turns to go to church to talk to his pastor but is hit by a car and dies.

(That event is a sin on the Christian’s part – failing to honor his father and mother – though a venial one because committed in the heat of the moment without intent. It will not bar him from Heaven; but is that person ready to enter into Jesus’ presence?)

When we die, we will have one of only two ultimate destinations: Heaven or Hell. Those headed to Hell will have no respite. Those headed to Heaven will go to Heaven, either directly or by way of Purgatory (from the Latin word purgare “to cleanse”). No one remains in Purgatory forever; eventually, everyone who enters Purgatory will be cleansed and go to Heaven. As for the actual specifics of how we become cleansed, we don’t know, because it hasn’t been revealed to us. About all we know is that it has something to do with reconciliation to God based on our continuing tendency to sin.
 
Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
In addition to answers, I will try to give you an analogy.

Say, you have been invited to a very clean and white house where everything is spotless (Heaven)…so here you are at the door, a little muddy (your attachment to sin)…somebody opens the door…(St. Peter)…and says "Hi…but you are muddy…you cannot enter yet until you clean your mud off your body…go to over there…a shower (purgatory) and cleanse yourself…so you go and spend time in the shower (purgatory)…and you clean yourself…since as REV says…“Nothing impure will ever enter it [Heaven], nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.” Rev. 21:27…And after showering, you think you are clean…so you go back to the door…St. Peter says…not yet…go back and shower more…😃 (meaning, God will judge you when you are clean enough to enter)

Bible references and ECF teachings…scripturecatholic.com/purgatory.html

1 Cor. 3:10-15 - works are judged after death and tested by fire. Some works are lost, but the person is still saved. Paul is referring to the state of purgation called purgatory. The venial sins (bad works) that were committed are burned up after death, but the person is still brought to salvation. This state after death cannot be heaven (no one with venial sins is present) or hell (there is no forgiveness and salvation).

1 Cor. 3:15 – “if any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” The phrase for “suffer loss” in the Greek is “zemiothesetai.” The root word is “zemioo” which also refers to punishment. The construction “zemiothesetai” is used in Ex. 21:22 and Prov. 19:19 which refers to punishment (from the Hebrew “anash” meaning “punish” or “penalty”). Hence, this verse proves that there is an expiation of temporal punishment after our death, but the person is still saved. This cannot mean heaven (there is no punishment in heaven) and this cannot mean hell (the possibility of expiation no longer exists and the person is not saved).

1 Cor. 3:15 – further, Paul writes “he himself will be saved, “but only” (or “yet so”) as through fire.” “He will be saved” in the Greek is “sothesetai” (which means eternal salvation). The phrase “but only” (or “yet so”) in the Greek is “houtos” which means “in the same manner.” This means that man is both eternally rewarded and eternally saved in the same manner by fire.

1 Cor. 3:13 - when Paul writes about God revealing the quality of each man’s work by fire and purifying him, this purification relates to his sins (not just his good works). Protestants, in attempting to disprove the reality of purgatory, argue that Paul was only writing about rewarding good works, and not punishing sins (because punishing and purifying a man from sins would be admitting that there is a purgatory).

1 Cor. 3:17 - but this verse proves that the purgation after death deals with punishing sin. That is, destroying God’s temple is a bad work, which is a mortal sin, which leads to death. 1 Cor. 3:14,15,17 - purgatory thus reveals the state of righteousness (v.14), state of venial sin (v.15) and the state of mortal sin (v.17), all of which are judged after death.
 
Back in the day when I was an evangelical Christian, I was taught that our salvation has three aspects:
  1. justification–we were saved from the penalty of sin. (past)
  2. sanctification-we are being saved from the power of sin (present)
  3. glorification–we will be saved from the presence of sin (future).
I would say that the evangelicals I was around also believed in a kind of “purgation” after death (see #3 above)–in that we recognized that at the moment we die we (meaning most of us) are not sinlessly perfect. So in “glorification” God makes us sinlessly perfect–able to stand before His presence without shame. But how this is done is not really defined. I guess I believed I would just somehow wake up holy–“zapped” by God in the moment between death and heaven. But make no mistake-- there definitely is a purification between death and eternity in evangelical eschatology…

The reason purgatory is so distasteful to evangelicals is that they see it as detracting from the work of Christ, rather than seeing it as part of the salvation He purchased for us.
 
Lots of good answers here already. I’ll try putting it in my own words to attempt to add to your understanding of Purgatory.

As others have said, the Catechism gives a great answer to this question. Look at paragraphs 1030-1032 at this link. It has the “official” definition, Scripture references and some references to early Christian writings.

Basically, Purgatory is the state that souls go to who loved the Lord in their earthly life, but died with some attachment to sin (really, any lack of desire to do God’s will at all times) or with minor (venial) sins on their soul. As we read in Revelation 21:27, “Nothing impure will enter [Heaven]”. Therefore, any impurities must be removed before we spend eternity with the Lord in Heaven. This purification is accomplished by the grace purchased for us on the cross. The experience of purification has traditionally been referred to as a “cleansing fire”, similar to the imagery of 1 Corinthians 3:15. It’s also important to note, as CCC 1031 says, Purgatory is entirely different from the punishment of the damned in Hell.

Hopefully this helps. Let me know if you need any clarifications on this explanation.
 
Regarding your first reason given above (bolded):
Those who are condemned to hell cannot be saved and brought to heaven. Repentance and forgiveness of grave sin is no longer possible for those in hell.

If by “hell” you are referring to the “place of the dead” where those who died prior to Jesus’ sacrifice went, it’s best to state that specifically so there is no confusing it with what “hell” now means (since Jesus’ death).
I guess so.

But you must realize Jesus did go to hell because he died for the sins of man. And if you die for the sins of man your going to hell.
 
I guess so.

But you must realize Jesus did go to hell because he died for the sins of man. And if you die for the sins of man your going to hell.
It would not be correct to think of Our Lord’s atonement as meaning He takes on all the penalties due for every one of our sins. Eg. He did/does not undergo eternal damnation/s (hell) for mortal sin/s committed by us.

Jesus died to make reparation for the sins of man so man could be reconciled to God.
Our Lord’s assuming of human nature, and accepting (in perfect obedience to the will of the Father and for love of us) the human suffering of His passion and death is the reparation He made, and offered up, for our sins.

Generally when we use the term “hell” now, it is in reference to the hell of those who die in unrepented mortal sin – that is, it refers to a state of eternal damnation/punishment/separation from God…
As the CCC says:
**CCC #1033 **…To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from Him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell”.
vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P2O.HTMJesus did not die in unrepented mortal sin. Also, He could not experience “self-exclusion from communion with God” – that would be self-exclusion from Himself, an impossibility.

Regarding the “hell” referred to in the Apostle’s Creed (“He descended into hell and on the third day rose…”):**CCC #632 **The frequent New Testament affirmations that Jesus was “raised from the dead” presuppose that the crucified one sojourned in the realm of the dead prior to his resurrection. This was the first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell: that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead. But he descended there as Saviour, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there.

**CCC #633 **Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” - Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek - because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God. Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into “Abraham’s bosom”: “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Saviour in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell.” Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.
vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1R.HTM
 
It would not be correct to think of Our Lord’s atonement as meaning He takes on all the penalties due for every one of our sins. Eg. He did/does not undergo eternal damnation/s (hell) for mortal sin/s committed by us.

Jesus died to make reparation for the sins of man so man could be reconciled to God.
Our Lord’s assuming of human nature, and accepting (in perfect obedience to the will of the Father and for love of us) the human suffering of His passion and death is the reparation He made, and offered up, for our sins.

Generally when we use the term “hell” now, it is in reference to the hell of those who die in unrepented mortal sin – that is, it refers to a state of eternal damnation/punishment/separation from God…
As the CCC says:
**CCC #1033 **…To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from Him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell”.
vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P2O.HTMJesus did not die in unrepented mortal sin. Also, He could not experience “self-exclusion from communion with God” – that would be self-exclusion from Himself, an impossibility.

Regarding the “hell” referred to in the Apostle’s Creed (“He descended into hell and on the third day rose…”):**CCC #632 **The frequent New Testament affirmations that Jesus was “raised from the dead” presuppose that the crucified one sojourned in the realm of the dead prior to his resurrection. This was the first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell: that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead. But he descended there as Saviour, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there.

**CCC #633 **Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” - Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek - because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God. Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into “Abraham’s bosom”: “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Saviour in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell.” Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.
vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1R.HTM
My point is Jesus went to hell because he died for the sins of the world. And while in Hell, this is what the Church teaches, He didn’t descend to Hell because he was bad- rather, he did it to rescue the good people who were there. Regardless of our personal merits, we cannot be saved without Christ.

Thus it is stated in the Apostles Creed.

…He was crucified, died, and was buried.** He descended into Hell**, and on the third day rose again from the dead. He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father almighty…

One must wonder "Jesus must of had a reason to go to hell. As stated above he didn’t go to hell because he was bad but to free the just.

If you would,
Please read the following from the Catechism:
633 Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” - Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek - because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God.479 Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into “Abraham’s bosom”:480 "It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell."481 **Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.482 **
634 "The gospel was preached even to the dead."483 The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfilment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.
**635 Christ went down into the depths of death so that “the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.”**484 Jesus, “the Author of life”, by dying destroyed "him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage."485 Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades”, so that "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth."486
Again the above is from the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.

Also if you wish to view more on this please visit this site:

vatican.va/archive/catechism/p122a5p1.htm
 
Before asking my question I would like to tell you the viewpoint that I am comming from. I am a protestant who is studying history at Virginia Commonwealth University and I am trying my hardest not to catagorize people and beliefs but to truely understand why they believe what they believe.

So, my question is, if people can go to purgatory to work off their sin, why did Jesus need to die?

Please understand that I am not asking this question to be antagonistic but to truely understand what and why catholics believe this. And if I am completely misunderstanding purgatory please define it and give scripture references for its basis.

P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please tell me where to move it.
First thing everyone has to remember is that the Gospel was taught by Jesus to the Apostles. That is, the source of all Christian doctrine and practice comes to us from the Apostles, not the bible, or more specifically, one’s personal guesswork on bible verses.

The Apostles founded a Church, “…I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail over it.” The reason Jesus established a Church was so that the Gospel, could be transmitted in all its purity for all time. See Mk 16:15-16. Here Jesus says the way one can be saved is to hear the Gospel as preached by the Apostles and then be baptized. Since the bible does not claim anywhere to have a summary, much less the full Gospel, preached by the Apostles, it obviously had to be transmitted orally, the same way Jesus taught. He taught by word & action, not by the written word.

This Gospel the Apostles preached by word & action is the Catholic faith as Jesus would not hold us today to something impossible as that would make him an evil God. If one views what the early Christian writers wrote on doctrine & practice it can easily be seen it matches to the doctrine & practice of the Catholic Church today.

One doctrine Jesus taught the Apostles was that purgatory exists for those who are still attached to sin and/or have to atone for sins committed on earth. Very few die loving God with his whole heart, soul, mind & strength & our neighbor as ourselves due to our fallen human nature which makes us proud & selfish.

Jesus also taught he came to free us from our sins “…and his name shall be Jesus for he shall save his people from their sins”. Well, what does that mean? He came to free us from the slavery to sin so that we could revert to our original state of friendship with God and love of neighbor and be happy by sharing in God’s blessed life. This starts here & now on earth & will continue in heaven provided we don’t reject him by deadly sin & don’t repent prior to death.

He came “… not to be served but to serve, to give his life as a ransom for many”. That is, humanity was enslaved to sin (pride, gluttony, lust, anger, envy, hatred, etc) which made us individually & societally miserable. We were prisoners to the evil one and our own inclination to sin. So Jesus, by his death & resurrection, redeemed us, that is, freed us from the power of sin which enslaved us & made us miserable. To ransom someone means to free him from prison or some sort of slavery, usually by means of some sort of monetary payment. Jesus’ payment was his passion & death. Nowhere does the bible say that because of his passion, death & resurrection that every Christian will go straight to heaven upon death. Nowhere. And remember also, that nowhere did God say that the bible is the only source of doctrine & Christian practice.

However, this is not an automatic for everyone. We can reject his grace, his passion, death & resurrection and sin leaving the real possibility of hell for every individual. Which is why he was so strong about mentioning death, judgement, heaven & hell. Every third page, on average, of the four Gospels to be exact. So if one does not love Jesus by keeping his commandments “… if you love me keep my commandments” one is saying he does not want to be with Jesus for all eternity, that he is right and Jesus is wrong, & he will send himself to hell which he justly deserves.

Hope this helps.
 
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