Questions about same sex marriage, divorce, so i can know how to lead others and defend our faith

[yogaflame]

First of all thank you so much and thank God for people like all of you in this forum who have reminded us and explain to us about Gods love and mercy and blessings to us.

Sir can I ask help on how to answer or explain when i encounter some questions about our stands on moral issues and our faith. I don’t want to go into religious debate since God wants us to just be humble, be kind and be an example and explain to them and pray for nonbeliever and misguided, but there are some times we have to defend our belief about certain issues, and also possibly lead others away to wrong ideas and back to God grace. And also for me to strengthen more my faith and belief which is sometimes being attack and also weaken when i dont know how to defend it but good thing is i win always with the Help of the Holyspirit.

So here is my question sir. How can i defend our belief about same sex marriage and what is wrong about it , etc. And also same with divorce. I have friends who are gay and i respect them but i want to be an instrument also or just the light just to explain to them with humble and kindness about what is wrong with same marriage or divorce. What should i say to them? Personally i really want to know our stand so i will understand it and also a way for me to defend our faith and possibly enlighten and lead others to Gods grace again without being judgmental. Also this has always been my question that i cannot explain why we are against same sex marriage and also how we can help to defend that faith and other moral issue.

If the time comes if they explain there side, i also want to show our side about this issues and possibly be a light to enlighten them. Parts in the verse in the bible were i can find about this issues can also help.

Help me sir to defend and also explain our side on same sex marriage. What will i say why we are against it. What part in the bible and how can we lead them back to Gods grace , etc. Please help em it will a big help to me.

Thanks and more power and God bless to you. Please pray for our Vatican, our priest, sisters, preachers to be the light for everyone and may they overcome the trials and persecution and being judge right now and ridiculed by society which is so much ruled now by materialism, wrong notion of freedom, activism, and agnostics and atheist.

Thanks and God bless to all and may we all win the battle between good and evil with God in our side!

 

[nohornets33]

The Catechism is very blunt about how we should view people with same-sex attractions. Since homosexuality is contrary to the laws of nature and cannot produce life, the Catholic Church considers it to be “intrinsically disordered.” The Catechism is also careful to point out that homosexuality is not a choice and is often a very serious trial, and people with this condition should be respected as they are called to a life of chastity and to unite their suffering with that of Jesus. When you doubt the possibility of a relationship with homosexual friends, even ones that are married, remember that they are sinners that need to be saved just like everyone else in this world. Here are some Bible verses that might help: Genesis 2:24, Genesis 19:1-29, Romans 1:24-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10.
On divorce: “Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate.” Mark 10:9
On remarriage: “The woman answered and said to him, ‘I do not have a husband.’ Jesus answered her, ‘You are right in saying, “I do not have a husband.” For you have had five husbands, and the one you have now is not your husband. What you have said is true.’” John 4:17-18
“But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery” Matthew 5:32.
As with homosexuals, people who divorce and remarry are sinners who need Christ in order to be saved. God calls us to not judge people because we are all guilty, but there is nothing wrong with believing that a certain action is right or wrong in the eyes of God. Simply be able to make the discernment for yourself and understand your belief, and you will have no problem being able to explain what you believe.
God bless!!

 

[yogaflame]

Thank you for your answer. Sir the problem today is that we catholics right now are not very vocal and brace enough to speak up especially in th western countries unlike the agnostics, atheist, activist of same sex marriage and abortion. We might not have the money support of Hollywood celebrities and rich businessman and money and celebrities to influence politicians for same sex marriage and abortion and divorce but we have Gods grace to help up. I hope we Catholics will be more vocal and lead others especially the youth of today who are misguided right now. I hope the Church and all of us will work hard more to be vocal and fight for our moral values to lead others to Gods grace.

The problem is we are so silent and afraid to be ridiculed and just contented that we are self is not falling to there sin and just let them be, but we are all called for discipleship to lead especially our next generation to Gods grace and His will. This activist have been so active rallying always, lobbying to politicians and businessman and getting celebrity support while we all stay silent. Let us pray for this generation and this world. But let us also do our share to fight even if we have small numbers, our church is now persecuted and ridiculed let us all continue to fight and be vocal to lead others to Gods grace with love, humility, honesty and kindness and courage. Let us go out and speak out.

Remember , the Christians battled persecution and face death for thousand of years and you can see it bear fruit now we have Christianity flourish and victory achieve to spread the Gospel and Gods grace. But now we are at a new war again. Battle between good and evil will not end. Let us not be afraid.

 

[St_Francis]

For Catholics especially, marriage is a sacrament which God created for the formation of new families. It is within families that God allows us to share in His creation of the most important of His creatures: new human beings.

Even for non-Christians, who have only natural marriages (rather than sacramental or supernatural marriages), the importance of marriage as the formation of a new unit of society and source of new members of the society has always been recognized.

Everyone everywhere recognized the most important contribution that married people made to the society, and marriage and the family where protected and given special consideration.

For all, the founding of new families has always been protected as the most necessary component of the continuation of the society.

With the advent of artificial forms of birth control, the “edges” of marriage began to fray. Previously, if a marriage did not produce children, that was a sorrow that was not the married couple’s choice, but with abc, lack of children became an equally valid choice.

The Malthusian propaganda of the myth of overpopulation took hold, and many began to think that having children was a problem, and irresponsible act.

The special protections began to diminish (for example, tax breaks have in that past moved from special consideration for married couples with one at home raising children to special consideration for married couples where both work), and spread to non-married people (ie, people living together can get some of the benefits of marriage).

The idea of marriage and parenthood became separated. The breaking up of a family through divorce became ridiculously easy. Out-of-wedlock births became more and more acceptable.

Marriage diminished to the point that all it is now is a sort of public celebration of a super-going-steady with some benefits thrown in instead of life-long vows til death do us part.

And homosexuals also want to be able to “celebrate” their “love,” and get the benefits.

Our once-Christian society has degraded marriage to the point that we have to explain why we are against homosexual “marriage.” I fear it may now to be too late to stop it, because too few see the importance and seriousness of marriage. It may be, as happened in Louisiana, that a sort of super-marriage will come in to fill the void.

 

[St_Francis]

I like Scott Hahn’s explanation of marriage as a covenental relationship more akin to adoption than to a contract. The Catholic view is the covenental view. A “blood” relationship is formed in marriage, so one can no more “become unmarried” than one can “become unparented.”

The marriage act seals the convenental bond.

When we view having children as the most important aspect of society, and when we view their raising as a most important good, we value marriage and parents staying together in the raising of the children.

Our society got completely out of whack. People’s freedom became more important than the raising of children. Freedom is sexual acts became possible with the advent in artificial birth control. Fathers were devalued to where they were seen as only wallets and not vitally important to the healthy growth of children.

The breaking up of a family should be undertaken under only the most serious of conditions. It should be the worst punishment for the worst sins. Would a parent kick a 10-year-old out of the family because he or she acted like a jerk, did not fulfill the parents’ dreams, or did not make the parents as happy as they thought a 10-year-old down the street might? It would be only under the most serious of circumstance that a parent would even begin to think about kicking a child out, and even then, the parents would recognize that there still existed a bond between them and their child.

It might be that a spouse behaves in such a way that the family needs to be protected from him or her. Divorce is a legal instrument to do that, but Catholics see it only as that. For Catholics, a civil divorce cannot break the familial bonds which were created in the sacrament of marriage. Unless the bonds were somehow defective, as determined through the annulment process, the bonds exist, just as parental bonds exist and cannot be undone. So for Catholics, those who divorce and remarry are committing adultery.

Divorce has been a total evil in our society as well. Marriage has become little more than an extension of dating, with people getting together, having sex and being known as a couple, maybe even creating a child, then splitting up when the partner no longer suits, and all this occurs either with or without the benefit of marriage. Spouses who can no longer trust their “other half.”

The result has been generations of children raised in unstable families, and evne some fear on the part of children whose parents do not divorce. Children raised without their fathers, children exposed to TMI!!! as well as too many unstable psuedo-parental relationships, and, so sadly, often the victims of predators who insinuate themselves in with the parent (usually the mother) only for access to her and their father’s children.

And now we have a completely unstable society, formed of all too many people with psyches wounded to the point that they do not live as adults. Our prisons are filled with young men raised without the loving care and discipline of their fathers, and young women are creating more children who will grow up without their fathers in their search to fill the void life by the absence of their fathers.