Questions about St. Joseph

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I was thinking about Saint Joseph last night because I don’t really know too much about him. Some of the questions I had are:
1.) Why is he so hidden? We know next to nothing about him, not even when he died.
2.) If Jesus chose to come into the world through Immaculate Conception, why did he have a human "father " at all, especially one He makes no mention of?
3.) Why do we more frequently talk about Jesus and Mary, but leave out St. Joseph?
4.) Are there any approved apparitions of St. Joseph?
5.) What are the most tried and true prayers to St. Joseph?

I mean none of these questions disrespectfully. I genuinely want to know more about him but he seems so hidden for having such an important place in Jesus’ life.
 
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This doesn’t really answer your question, but I find it fascinating that the Latin Church’s devotion to St. Joseph has only grown over the centuries…I don’t think that’s true for any other “Biblical” saint.
As memory serves, it was only in the late Middle Ages that his feast day became a universal observance in the West. It was only in the 19th century that he was proclaimed Patron of the Universal Church. It was only in 1962 that his name was added to the Roman Canon.

I have heard priests proclaim from the pulpit that St. Joseph is the greatest saint after Our Lady. Yet if you asked an Eastern Christian, they would likely tell you that honour belongs to St. John the Baptist. Iconography, including Western iconography, has traditionally depicted Our Lady on the Lord’s right and St. John the Baptist on the Lord’s left. St. John the Baptist has been highly honoured since ancient times. His nativity, alone among the saints, is celebrated as a great feast in the Church both East and West. According to Scripture, he was filled with the Holy Spirit even in the womb.

Yet, in the Latin Church, devotion to St. Joseph has waxed while devotion to St. John the Baptist has likely waned.

Don’t get me wrong…I love St. Joseph. I invoke his powerful intercession every single day. I know that I owe much to him. I have no problem with anyone saying he is greatest among the saints after Our Lady… I just find it interesting how our devotion to him has been a gradual process over the centuries.
 
That’s what I’m saying. I’ve heard his name. I know who he is. I know we have a feast day to honor him in March. But, I don’t know who he is, and I feel like I should.
 
This is simply my opinion so don’t hesitate to correct me. I believe St. Joseph is the pillar example of humble, hardworking, modest manhood. Growing up I knew most of my friends moms, but their dad’s not so much. They had a different role and tended to remain in the background. St. Joseph lived the example of protection, care and hard work. That is all we know about him and I believe it is what St. Joseph wants. He does not attempt to take the honor or glory away from his wife or son even though he was their leader on earth. He lead them to their own success without attempting to use them for his own success. He shows how a leader is supposed to behave.

ETA: When I have more time I will attempt to answer the other questions in your post. Probably tonight or tomorrow will be when I can get back here.
 
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Mary needed a protector, as did the baby Jesus. So the fact that a foster-father of Jesus, an earthly father, was needed is evident. Moreover, Jesus gave us an example in the Holy Family for families from that time on.
There have been apparitions of Joseph. Knock is an approved apparition of Joseph as is Fatima. There are other more recent ones reported, such as those in Brazil. Some have suggested his time “will come” in the future. Very recently, his name was added in the Mass, a sure sign (IMO) of more of his influence to come.
We also don’t know when Mary died, although we do she was taken body and soul into heaven. At least one mystic has suggested that Joseph’s tomb will be found at some point.
 
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I think there might be a very logical reason for this.

He died before any of the Apostles had the opportunity to meet him.

Sts Andrew and John were both disciples of St John the Baptist and St Peter most likely knew of St John the Baptist through his brother St Andrew.

Obviously, they all knew the Blessed Mother.

And while I’m sure the Blessed Mother told St John all about St Joseph, all the other hundreds and thousands of disciples during Jesus and Mary’s life time most likely didn’t hear stories about St Joseph. But they were living witnesses to the story of Jesus and how His Blessed Mother responded to her Son.

Also, the lay faithful personally witnessed the Holiness of the other first century Saints - but they all missed out on St. Joseph.

BTW - I also believe this is why there is very little know about Mary’s parents too.

God Bless
 
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Is it possible he was assumed into Heaven too? Why wouldn’t he have been if not?
 
What? Where did Jesus come from then? Where did everybody who died a good death go?
 
What? Where did Jesus come from then? Where did everybody who died a good death go?
Heaven gates weren’t open until Jesus ascended into Sheol and prepared it. Remember Jesus says to Mary “Do not cling to me” because he had not yet ascended to Heaven and prepared the way yet. Before Jesus created Heaven people went to Sheol (Hades). Remember the story Jesus told of “Rich man and Lazarus” Luke 16:19-31. Jesus himself defined what Sheol looked like in that story.
 
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Another point that should be made is that when Christ died on the Cross for our sins, he went to Hell first. You probably are wondering why would Christ go to Hell upon death? Well, to inform those in Sheol of the Good News that the Messianic has arrived. Souls who believe and were on the “Waiting” side of Sheol are in Heaven with our Lord. So to answer your question is St. Joseph in Heaven? Yes.
 
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The righteous of the Old Testament were in Hades, but in a “good” portion of Hades that we traditionally call the “Limbo of the Fathers”. Our Lord referred to it as “Abraham’s Bosom” in the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus. When Christ died and “descended into hell”, we actually mean that he went to this Limbo of the Fathers and opened the door to heaven for all those righteous souls that were waiting for Him there.
 
I know he is in Heaven. I was wondering if he was taken there in body. If sheol was a place the just waited it wouldn’t have been painful.
 
We don’t know if Joseph went to Heaven Body and Soul for certain, but my guess is No. Further, Sheol has many sides to it. One is where souls are waiting for the King. Another side is the side of “Torment”. Another side is the side of “Limbo”.
 
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What? Where did Jesus come from then? Where did everybody who died a good death go?
Heaven was not created until Jesus ascended into Heaven and prepared it. Remember Jesus says to Mary “Do not cling to me” because he had not yet ascended to Heaven and prepared the way yet. Before Jesus created Heaven people went to Sheol (Hades). Remember the story Jesus told of “Rich man and Lazarus” Luke 16:19-31. Jesus himself defined what Sheol looked like in that story.
I’m sorry, but this not technically correct. Heaven existed, but the Gates of Heaven were closed. Heaven always existed and is where God and His Angels always lived.

Remember, St Michael the Archangel casted out of Heaven satan and his demons before God created Adam.

God Bless
 
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I think St Joseph is a little underestimated, but that’s probably because we don’t know much about him. I am not sure if there was any apparitions. Jesus needed a protector on earth and that’s who St. Joseph was. St Joseph didn’t really have a huge role in our salvation, but Mary’s yes to God and Christ’s passion make them popular conversation topics. There are several prayers to him online.
 
underestimated is an under statement… He is the Only man that has had authority over Mary (Mother of God) and Jesus (Son of God/God the Son).
 
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1.) Why is he so hidden? We know next to nothing about him, not even when he died.
I don’t think he’s that hidden, given that Mary only appears a very few times in the Gospels as well. There is a school of thought that he was very humble and that he did not put himself front and center but always put Mary and Jesus before himself, which would be one reason we don’t hear a lot about him. Another reason would be that because he died well before Jesus’ public life, those compiling the material for the early gospels didn’t know him so they couldn’t include tons of material about him.

However, he has certainly responded to those over the centuries who were devoted to him, such as St. Andre Bessette. There are also private revelations, some of them approved to some level, where the visionary saw Joseph, or learned about Joseph and promoted devotion to him, or stated that Joseph’s tomb would eventually be found and the world would appreciate the importance of Joseph. Some Popes have already begun to appreciate him, such as Pope Benedict XV who entrusted the faithful to his care during WWI in Bonum sane, and added him to the Divine Praises. If you want to know St. Joseph, just pray to him.
2.) If Jesus chose to come into the world through Immaculate Conception, why did he have a human "father " at all, especially one He makes no mention of?
For the same reason any boy needs a human father. To protect him and his mother, teach him, be a good role model. Jesus was fully human. He needed a dad on earth, especially in a society where single moms had no way of earning money, had few or no rights, and unless they found another man to marry, were in a dangerous position.
3.) Why do we more frequently talk about Jesus and Mary, but leave out St. Joseph?
Who’s this “we” you speak of? I talk about St. Joseph all the time. I say daily prayers to him. I constantly ask him for his help and protection. St. Andre Bessette initially inspired me to do this but I have found plenty of encouragement along the way.
4.) Are there any approved apparitions of St. Joseph?
Yes. He appeared at Fatima, a Vatican approved apparition, on Oct 13, 1917, holding the Child Jesus, along with Mary of course.

He also appeared in 1519 at Cotignac, France as part of the Our Lady of Graces apparitions, which were traditionally approved (there was no formal approval process then) and pilgrimages have been conducted to the site for years.

In addition, the reported apparitions of Joseph (and Mary) to Sister Mary Ephrem, the “Our Lady of America” apparitions in Fostoria, Ohio and Rome City, Indiana, have been approved for faith expression by the Archbishop of Cincinnati. I do a First Wednesday devotion to St. Joseph that was promulgated by Sister Mary Ephrem. (It’s nothing big. You go to Mass, receive Communion with the love that Joseph had in his heart for Jesus, and then you say the Joyful Mysteries rosary meditating on it from St. Joseph’s perspective.)

I will answer your prayer question in the next post as this is getting quite long…
 
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Is it possible he was assumed into Heaven too? Why wouldn’t he have been if not?
He was not assumed into heaven. Mary was assumed because she was completely sin-free. She was born without original sin and remained without sin throughout her life. Therefore, she merited this special grace.

Joseph, although a great saint, was born with original sin. That means his body gets to lay in the grave like all the other great saints’ bodies until God resurrects them after the Last Day. His soul of course went to the Limbo of the Fathers where it remained until Jesus died and descended to Hell (Sheol) and opened Heaven to all the righteous who had died before him, including Joseph, John the Baptist, and all the OT patriarchs.

It has been said that one day near the end times we will discover St. Joseph’s tomb.
 
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