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Is there anyone out there who was involved in Wicca? My family is up against some type of attack in drive by curses etc… Can anyone out there help me as to what I am up against? Thanks,

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Is there anyone out there who was involved in Wicca? My family is up against some type of attack in drive by curses etc… Can anyone out there help me as to what I am up against? Thanks,

Lobster 123
Could you elaborate a bit? What’s happening? Why do you believe your family has been cursed?

If you’re not comfortable sharing all the details publicly, feel free to email me… But it would help to know what’s going on. Wiccans generally don’t curse people because they believe in the Threefold Law and the Wiccan Rede ('An ye harm none, do as ye will), so it sounds like there’s something more going on if a curse was involved.
 
@ Lobster 123:

Our Lord is far greater than any evil that can be thrown at you. That’s not to say that you shouldn’t feel creeped out or distressed; I think that’s normal. Anyway, I will pray for you and your family and encourage you to stand in the strength of Jesus. He is with you always!
 
Doesn’t sound like the work of a Wiccan: most of them are the sort who don’t cast curses, since they believe the magic they work comes back to them, for good or for bad. The ones that do, and there are a few loose cannons among them just like every group of human beings, are generally very angry or unbalanced types, or teenagers messing with things they shouldn’t. Could you elaborate on what’s happening? It’s hard to discern from the bit of information you gave.
 
My mother-in-law is in the new age movement. We were living in Richmond, Va and moved to Louisiana where I am from in order to gain some distance from relativism and all that that entails. At first when we put the house up on the market in Richmond, we were getting destructuion of little things around our home. We were told by our spiritual director to move as we were getting drive by isssues. We heeded the advice of our spirutual director and a week after we decided to move, our house sold as we had a cash offer. Now that we are in Louisiana, little issues of destruction have been continueing around our home. There are lots of spiritual supernatural things going on too but lots of destructive happenings too. Anything I do like building a fence etc… is damaged in some way. Flowers planted are poisoned and killed. Sicknesses coming at the most inopportune times and countless other things to our vehicles etc… It is possible that someone is being paid by my mother-in-law or brother-in-law in order for us to go financially bankrupt? I don’t know at this point. I do know that something is going on and needed to know if it were occultic activity. I’m not sure what my mother-in-law is into but I sure that she has supernatural powers and wondered whether it was some type of witchcraft???
She is into the ennegran, and youngeon philosophy. She watches wayne Dyer all the time and believes in universal pantheism. Words used are power, energy, chakeras, oras. She is pretty deep into the new age movement and I like to call it witchcraft in and of itself. I’m protecting my family at all cost and we will stay in Louisiana regardless of what happens because it is more of a simply life here and to keep our distance from my wife’s family. I know that there are multiple people that are involved even over time and state boundaries. Rodent urine is being used around my home along with other things which are potent. I’ve typed more than what i feel comfortable typing and want to know what is going on in this situation. Please help. Thanks. i have a BA from Franciscan University in Theology so I know a little of the spiritual life and what not but don’t claim to be a know it all. Thanks!

Lobster123
 
Have you concerned a mundane explanation for any of the things you described? Are rodents common in your area? Do you work in a place with a lot of people? My neighbour works in a school and she’s ALWAYS sick. Illnesses don’t wait for an opportune time, they can strike at all hours of the day. What’s your neighbourhood like? Are you in an area that has a higher crime rate?

I think that before you drive yourself crazy imagining that someone’s put a curse on you, you should take a deep breath and look into possible natural causes for everything you’ve described. We humans do often tend to go for sensational explanations when there’s a perfectly mundane explanation for things.
 
I just wanted to know if there are any characteristics of these things that are likely to be cultic activity? this has been going on for 3 years now and I am certain that some of it is the work of someone else whether it be natural or supernatural I do not know but I am certain of another’s activity. thanks.

Lobster123
 
Is there anyone out there who was involved in Wicca?
Whilst possible, it is unlikely that a Wiccan is doing any type of “attack magic”.

Likewise, the run of the mill pagan doesn’t want to get into “attack magic”. For starters, it is too much like hard work. Especially if one wants it to be effective.

It is much easier, simpler, cheaper, and more effective to acquire a gun, and put a couple of bullets through your knees.
My family is up against some type of attack in drive by curses etc…
To provide any help at all, specifics are required:

What is the evidence that any type of attack is occurring?
  • Objective evidence. Specific data: Date, time, place, what happens. Physical evidence;
  • Subject evidence: emotional state of each individual. Physical feelings.
There are a number of other questions, none of which should be addressed, until you have somebody that can do a look-see, to determine what is going on, and how to prevent future occurrences.

Don’t be surprised if the suggested solution is one of the following:
  • Spend two or more hours a day in extreme physical exercise;
  • Practice journalling;
  • Meditate/pray two or more hours a day;
Can anyone out there help me as to what I am up against?
There are groups that specialize in “attack magic”, and do go out of their way to do nasty things to other people. Fortunately for the rest of society, these groups usually end up in a bout of self-destruction.

If this is in Louisiana, you are more likely to be running into a Voudon practitioner that has gone rogue. If in Virginia, you are more likely dealing with a fundamental Christian gone rogue.

Amber
 
Well, first I would look into the more mundane explanations, such as the ones that have already been suggested. It could be nothing more than the types of vermin that are common in that area… if you have rats or mice running around, that would be a good explanation for the urine. It could be bugs. It could just be a plain old string of bad luck – “stuff” happens, haha!

In Louisiana, both Hoodoo and Voodoo are traditional magical practices in that part of the country, with their own unique traditions that differ from other parts of the south. I know that urine is a common ingredient used in Hoodoo spells, but it’s usually human urine that’s used, and it’s used for entirely different purposes. It can be used in love spells, and (if someone can get some of your own urine, which is pretty difficult nowadays) it can be used to curse you. There’s also a Hoodoo tradition of urinating along a knife blade and letting it run onto the ground to render someone impotent, but again, that would be human urine, not rodent urine. Of course there might be many other ways of using it, so who knows… But to me, it sounds like there could be perfectly logical explanations for what’s going on.

From what you described of your mother-in-law, it doesn’t sound like what she’s practicing is magic or witchcraft in any way. It’s important to differentiate between New Age practices (of which there are many) and witchcraft (which also takes many different forms). Her practices sound more about inner work (self-empowerment and psychology) than casting spells. I’m not quite sure what you meant by “youngean philosophy” – did you mean Jungian psychology? If so, that’s just a branch of psychology, also called depth psychology, and doesn’t really have anything to do with New Age beliefs. It’s just a form of psychoanalysis.

If you truly believe that you, your family, or your property is cursed, the first thing I’d recommend is to have priest over to bless your house. If there are any particular objects you’ve found on your property that you believe are from spells, remove them from the property immediately. You could also use some blessed St. Benedict medals, which require a special blessing from a priest, to get rid of any demonic forces that might be involved. They’re a powerful sacramental with exorcising properties, but they have their own particular blessing that’s a bit different from blessing any other medal. It’s traditional for Catholics to bury four blessed St. Benedict medals on their property, one at each of the four corners of the property. Any priest can bless them, and you can find the blessing rite here, if your priest doesn’t have it in his book of blessings: fisheaters.com/stbenedictmedal.html

In addition to the house blessing and medals, don’t hesitate to invoke the aid of St. Michael the Archangel! The Prayer to St. Michael (“St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…”) is a great one most everyone knows. The Chaplet of St. Michael is also a great prayer, and the Archangel has promised that anyone who prays it will receive the aid of the angels throughout their life. Also, keep holy water in your home, bless yourself with it frequently, and have your family do the same. As many saints have said, both holy water and the Sign of the Cross make devils flee! A good prayer while doing this, favored by St. Benedict, is: “By the Sign of the Cross, deliver us from our enemies, O Lord.”

Of course the most powerful protection you could possibly get is by calling on the holy name of Christ.

I’m not suggesting any of these things out of superstition… they’re simply practices and sacramentals that Catholics throughout history have used. I’d still wager that there are mundane explanations for all of this, but if you think your mother-in-law has reason to be using magic against you, and it really seems witchcraft is the only explanation – by all means, use the intercession of the saints, the power of Christ, and holy objects to protect yourself and your family.
 
I should point out too that while most Wiccans, Pagans, and New Agers wouldn’t practice harmful magic because it goes against their religion, Hoodoo practitioners don’t necessarily have any qualms about it. It might go against the Hoodoo’s personal morals, but they don’t have the same beliefs that what you do comes back to you (like Wiccans do), and so if they feel it’s justified, can be perfectly fine with putting a curse on someone. Since you live in Louisiana, Hoodoo seems relevant to bring up, even though that might not be what’s going on.
 
Well, first I would look into the more mundane explanations, such as the ones that have already been suggested. It could be nothing more than the types of vermin that are common in that area… if you have rats or mice running around, that would be a good explanation for the urine. It could be bugs. It could just be a plain old string of bad luck – “stuff” happens, haha!

In Louisiana, both Hoodoo and Voodoo are traditional magical practices in that part of the country, with their own unique traditions that differ from other parts of the south. I know that urine is a common ingredient used in Hoodoo spells, but it’s usually human urine that’s used, and it’s used for entirely different purposes. It can be used in love spells, and (if someone can get some of your own urine, which is pretty difficult nowadays) it can be used to curse you. There’s also a Hoodoo tradition of urinating along a knife blade and letting it run onto the ground to render someone impotent, but again, that would be human urine, not rodent urine. Of course there might be many other ways of using it, so who knows… But to me, it sounds like there could be perfectly logical explanations for what’s going on.

From what you described of your mother-in-law, it doesn’t sound like what she’s practicing is magic or witchcraft in any way. It’s important to differentiate between New Age practices (of which there are many) and witchcraft (which also takes many different forms). Her practices sound more about inner work (self-empowerment and psychology) than casting spells. I’m not quite sure what you meant by “youngean philosophy” – did you mean Jungian psychology? If so, that’s just a branch of psychology, also called depth psychology, and doesn’t really have anything to do with New Age beliefs. It’s just a form of psychoanalysis.

If you truly believe that you, your family, or your property is cursed, the first thing I’d recommend is to have priest over to bless your house. If there are any particular objects you’ve found on your property that you believe are from spells, remove them from the property immediately. You could also use some blessed St. Benedict medals, which require a special blessing from a priest, to get rid of any demonic forces that might be involved. They’re a powerful sacramental with exorcising properties, but they have their own particular blessing that’s a bit different from blessing any other medal. It’s traditional for Catholics to bury four blessed St. Benedict medals on their property, one at each of the four corners of the property. Any priest can bless them, and you can find the blessing rite here, if your priest doesn’t have it in his book of blessings: fisheaters.com/stbenedictmedal.html

In addition to the house blessing and medals, don’t hesitate to invoke the aid of St. Michael the Archangel! The Prayer to St. Michael (“St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…”) is a great one most everyone knows. The Chaplet of St. Michael is also a great prayer, and the Archangel has promised that anyone who prays it will receive the aid of the angels throughout their life. Also, keep holy water in your home, bless yourself with it frequently, and have your family do the same. As many saints have said, both holy water and the Sign of the Cross make devils flee! A good prayer while doing this, favored by St. Benedict, is: “By the Sign of the Cross, deliver us from our enemies, O Lord.”

Of course the most powerful protection you could possibly get is by calling on the holy name of Christ.

I’m not suggesting any of these things out of superstition… they’re simply practices and sacramentals that Catholics throughout history have used. I’d still wager that there are mundane explanations for all of this, but if you think your mother-in-law has reason to be using magic against you, and it really seems witchcraft is the only explanation – by all means, use the intercession of the saints, the power of Christ, and holy objects to protect yourself and your family.
Genesius,

You seem to know a lot more about this - what does it mean when they say “The power of the crystal?”
 
Yes, go to a priest.

Someone asked to join something I was starting some time ago. The person only wore white clothes…I liked the person. Heard of problems of other people with this person, but tended to stick up for this individual.

Some minor personality issues happened…then the Holy Spirit led me to discern this individual as well as this group I started…All hell broke loose. The woman with me also had strange things happening to her. I went to the archdiocesan exorcist and he discerned some things…

As was said, Louisiana has alot of spiritism. Go to a priest with the rite of exorcism. And do what others have recommended – prayer to St. Michael, the sacramentals…Call on the Blessed Mother and re-consecrate yourself and your family to her immaculate heart.

Go to Mass as often as you can. And really start to focus on Christ Himself.
The more attention you give to this, the worse it becomes.

The remedy is to look to Christ more and more each day, pray His life into all that surrounds you, live in Christ and His power…Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.

Turn to the power of Christ and with your will and the Blessed Mother, and with them place this situation at the foot of the cross. Banish it all through the power of His blood. Keep you in prayers!

I might add, I met a woman a number of years ago who was into the New Age, Chaka, auras, etc. She wanted to get out and went back to the Catholic Church. She told me every so often, that movement would come back and she always had to keep working to be rid of it.
 
I’ll pray for you… Get your house blessed by a priest, and keep holy water on hand. 😦
 
Genesius,

You seem to know a lot more about this - what does it mean when they say “The power of the crystal?”
Crystals are seen as containing particular energies within themselves that can be charged through the intent of the person utilizing it, and used for certain purposes. Often, quartz crystals are used because they can work for a wide variety of purposes, but each type of stone or gem also has specific magical associations. A bloodstone, for example, can be used for stopping blood, or helping with blood diseases; hematite is often used for centering or dealing with headaches; carnelian can be used for conditions of the kidneys. Basically, you find the stone you want to use (some people say the stone finds you!), you cleanse it, and then charge it for the purpose you need it for – usually by holding it in your hand and focusing on what you need it to do.

They can be used for psychic purposes, healing, centering, balancing, etc. It’s the same way with using herbs and roots in magic, or various “curios” like bone, hair, bodily fluids, even parts of animals (like a rabbit’s foot, for example!). Most have their own specific uses, but some (like quartz) have a wider variety of uses.
 
Thank you for your time and posting on these matters. I really appreciate it. I really do hope it is all in my head and I really do need to pray more in personal prayer time. We moved from Richmond, VA to get away from my inlaws because they were always trying to teach our children. they would teach in different ways but they would have practicing homosexuals over to their home many times even for Bible studies from their liberal Catholic Church. I am also Catholic and we went to the much more conservative parish in Richmond which is St. Benedict’s! My in-lawsdid not appreciate the fact that we homeschooled and that we wanted more children. We have 4 children now but are always open to more life as we don’t contracept. they tried to manupulate our decisions especially financial and so we decided to move to get some distance between us. I was never happy in Richmond and we did spen 6 and a half years there before we moved to Louisiana where I am from. Destruction of property has been a big problem since we moved. Screws falling out of our tables and chairs and many other little things continue to occur. We are getting spiritual help and direction from a healing priest here which has been good. My mind always thinks who and why? I still have no answers but thanks for all of your remarks. Please above all pray for us as I know that that absolutely works! My cousin is a priest too andi will get him to say the mass in our home too! Peace be with you all!

Lobster123
 
I’ll try to type these things as I remember them since they have been going on for over 2 years now. there were many broken metal objects found in our yard which i continue to throw away. There were markings on our different cars windshields like they were made from a nail punch alwasys in 3’s and usually over the driver side which is my side normally. This was not rock related. Many things going wrong with our car even after i just had it fixed costing lots of $$$. My in-laws would love to see us financially doomed and beggin us to come back to VA for the sake of the grandchildren alone. Lots of thoughts go through my head but I continue to ask why all of this. They feel like we’ve taken everything from them so that could be it but would they actually pay someone to do something like this and it would have to be multiple people too. i know that they would love to see my wife go back to VA without me altogether but that’s just not gonna happen as i will protect my family to the end. My mother-in-law is into this mind power stuff and definitely has special powers to create confusion at times and to throw thoughts. When she wants something, she gets it and her friends have told me that before too. I have no real idea what she’s into.

Lobster123
 
Yes, go to a priest.

Someone asked to join something I was starting some time ago. The person only wore white clothes…I liked the person. Heard of problems of other people with this person, but tended to stick up for this individual.

Some minor personality issues happened…then the Holy Spirit led me to discern this individual as well as this group I started…All hell broke loose. The woman with me also had strange things happening to her. I went to the archdiocesan exorcist and he discerned some things…

As was said, Louisiana has alot of spiritism. Go to a priest with the rite of exorcism. And do what others have recommended – prayer to St. Michael, the sacramentals…Call on the Blessed Mother and re-consecrate yourself and your family to her immaculate heart.

Go to Mass as often as you can. And really start to focus on Christ Himself.
The more attention you give to this, the worse it becomes.

The remedy is to look to Christ more and more each day, pray His life into all that surrounds you, live in Christ and His power…Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.

Turn to the power of Christ and with your will and the Blessed Mother, and with them place this situation at the foot of the cross. Banish it all through the power of His blood. Keep you in prayers!

I might add, I met a woman a number of years ago who was into the New Age, Chaka, auras, etc. She wanted to get out and went back to the Catholic Church. She told me every so often, that movement would come back and she always had to keep working to be rid of it.
Good advice - People who suffer from these attacks- suffer in silence because of the thought of the state of mind. Although to get verification, an individual person would have to get validation on the church’s part, but I think the church has seen an increase and have called in specialized priests, is this true? I thought there was a priest that had given a commentary on this topic, on EWTN. What I understood, the priest was new to this but has done a lot of studies - I thought he was from the Chicago diocese. Have priests from other parishes encountered a lot of these sort of attacks on individuals? and how are they approaching it?

Same advice, as you: We do have the strength of Christ and the saints that we pray to will go to him for help. When and if these attacks start - relax, pray - remembering Christ words, and say the Psalms. If you have a favorite saint, then ask them to go to Christ for you - if you don’t have a particular saint, I or anyone on the board can give you a great saints. I pray to Mary - as she is someone who will persist her son! - Remember this verse in Matthew 8,"I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” Christ commands the angels -

Look to Christ!
Mary
 
There were markings on our different cars windshields like they were made from a nail punch always in 3’s and usually over the driver side which is my side normally.
Gang related activity.
My mother-in-law is into this mind power stuff and definitely has special powers to create confusion at times and to throw thoughts. When she wants something, she gets it and her friends have told me that before too.
Obi Wan’s “These are not the bots you are looking for” scenario can be done:
  • The first way requires years of work, and by the time one can do it, very little short of the situation Obi Wan was in, would entice an individual to exercise it. The whole thing has become pretty pointless;
  • The second way is much faster, and results in a number of side effects, least of which is the psychological malfunctioning of the individual. Usually, but not always, this becomes a crash and burn;
In either instance, the best defence is:
  • Ground and centre;
  • Set up a protective barrier;
  • Reinforce that barrier every day;
  • As you increase your internal strength, increase the range and density of that protective barrier;
How to ground and centre depends upon your belief system.

Amber
 
Hey Lobster,

Just from what I have been reading here, I have two observations/suggestions to make, if you don’t mind.

First, I understand you don’t see eye to eye with your in-laws regarding religious issues, child rearing and procreation. How does your wife feel about this situation?

Second, I would do as others suggest and investigate whether you are possibly reading spiritual attributes into what may be solely natural occurrences, such as furniture falling apart, etc.

I am not saying your suspicions should be ignored, but, it just seems prudent to examine and exclude any happenstance.

I also would follow the advice given above and see your priest and get some guidance about this problem from a Catholic perspective.

It is all well and good to try to find out what Wiccans or others believe or practice, but I believe the solution to your problem lies with your own faith and beliefs.

Peace,

Seeker
 
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