Questions for Catholic converts

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check out the st michaels media at catholictelevision.org and listen to some of the one true faith podcasts helped me with a lot of my question i’m a convert myself i knew i wanted to become a catholic after i attended my first mass i enrolled in the next rcia a few months later
 
I’ve now left the Catholic Church, after my own experience of mysticism, because I believe that people in other religions also go to Heaven, God loves them, as we love our children. “In My Father’s House are many Mansions, I go to prepare a place for you.”
The Catholic Church also teaches that people from other religions may go to heaven.

It might be time for you to consider coming home.
 
Wow, big thanks to everyone who posted, this really is great forum with lots of great people and great advice. Special thanks to neophyte, also, that was a really interesting read. I’ll be sure to share that with some of my friends 👍

But yeah, I guess I should state my history. I’m 22 and have been raised as a pseudo-Christian (ie no real faith except on commercial holidays). As previously mentioned, I’ve been wanting to join a church for some time now, but I’ve mainly focused on Protestant churches. Fundamental Baptist churches, more specifically.

I guess Catholicism is the one I kinda “forgot”. This happened for a few reasons:

Firstly, because most of the Catholics I know (which isn’t many) were very self-righteous and judgmental…although many Protestants I know are worst, in my opinion. This happens in other religions too, so it’s not unique to Catholics.

Secondly, the church has received a tarnished reputation, which has effected my family–my Dad was abused at a Catholic boarding school as a child. The media doesn’t help, either. This also isn’t unique to Catholics. I’ll leave it at that.

And thirdly, many of the teachings just seem “foreign” to me and not what I’m used to after reading up so much about Protestantism. Also, the way Protestants view the Roman Catholic church doesn’t help either. I guess when you’re constantly told the Pope is likely to be part of the anti-Christ and all, it kinda sinks in after a while.

However, I come here with an open mind and willing to learn. So far it’s been a good experience 😉
 
Secondly, the church has received a tarnished reputation, which has effected my family–my Dad was abused at a Catholic boarding school as a child. The media doesn’t help, either. This also isn’t unique to Catholics. I’ll leave it at that.
I appreciate the position you’re in, and I’d like to offer the following in response to the abuse issue:

THE IMPACT OF SIN ON CHURCH AUTHORITY

If a Church leader is guilty of gross immorality, does his sin invalidate his position or authority?

Many, if not most, Protestants would say that it does, and they often use this line of reasoning to justify their denial of the authority of the Catholic Church. They cite historical events such as the Crusades, the Inquisition or reign of the Borgia Popes as evidence that the Church has lost its claim to moral and spiritual authority.

Such a response, however, is unbiblical. For example, Scripture states that Jesus knew “from the beginning” who would betray him – namely Judas, whom Jesus calls a “devil” (cf. John 6:64–71). This fact is significant, since Judas was selected as an apostle even though Jesus knew that he was corrupt.

Another example would be found in Jesus’ teaching on “Moses’ seat” found in the opening verses of Matthew 23: “Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.’” (Matthew 23:1-3)

“Moses’ seat” is a phrase that referred to a position of legitimate teaching authority held by the teachers of the law and the Pharisees. Later, Jesus condemned these men as “hypocrites,” “blind guides,” “blind fools,” “serpents,” and a “brood of vipers.” But in the passage above, Jesus specifically instructed the crowds and his disciples to obey these leaders – despite their corruption – because of the authority of their position. That is sobering stuff.

If it were true that immorality invalidated a religious leader’s authority, then why did Jesus command his followers to “obey and do everything” the scribes and Pharisees tell them? Jesus merely admonished his followers not to follow their hypocritical example. There is not even the slightest hint that their positions had been forfeited or abrogated because of their hypocrisy or immorality. If anything, the reverse is true because Jesus validated these leaders’ office by telling people to obey them. From this, we see that sin and corruption found in the individual office holders has no impact whatsoever on the authority of the office itself.

In the Parable of the Weeds found in Matthew 13, Jesus tells His disciples to anticipate corruption within the Church. He said:

Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. "The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’ (Matthew 13:24-30)

Notice it is not the world at large that is being described but rather the “kingdom of heaven” or Church that is portrayed as the field containing both wheat and weeds. Jesus does not indicate that weeds (sinners) should be uprooted from the field (Church) until the separation done at the time of the final harvest.

The Church is not a paradise for saints who are already perfected but a hospital for the spiritually sick who are being healed.

Jesus clearly taught that sins of individual Church leaders do not invalidate the authority of the positions those leaders hold. These sins, whether real or imagined, do not undermine the legitimate authority of the Catholic Church and do not provide an excuse for those who refuse to acknowledge and obey her. The authority given by God to the Church and the office of the Papacy is the same today as it was in the days of Peter, Linus, Anacletus and Clement because God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
 
Just to elaborate, the abuse was not sexual (as some of you may think), it was physical punishment–that, even in those days, was considered excessive.

After-all, physical abuse was common in all schools when my father was young (in Australia anyway), but the stories he told me about his childhood when I was a child were actually pretty frightening. It wasn’t just a simple cane across the back of the hand. It was full-fledged beatings that left a child virtually incapacitated. I’m unsure if any other forms of abuse took place, but if they did, he wasn’t subjected to it. I just wanted to clear that up.

And Randy, you make a fantastic point there–one I’d never really considered. And certainly one I’d never heard about through Protestant teachings. Thanks a bunch for that.
 
Just to elaborate, the abuse was not sexual (as some of you may think), it was physical punishment–that, even in those days, was considered excessive.

After-all, physical abuse was common in all schools when my father was young (in Australia anyway), but the stories he told me about his childhood when I was a child were actually pretty frightening. It wasn’t just a simple cane across the back of the hand. It was full-fledged beatings that left a child virtually incapacitated. I’m unsure if any other forms of abuse took place, but if they did, he wasn’t subjected to it. I just wanted to clear that up.

And Randy, you make a fantastic point there–one I’d never really considered. And certainly one I’d never heard about through Protestant teachings. Thanks a bunch for that.
That’s awful to hear what happened to your father, but it’s important to realise that that’s not the work of the Church or its’ teaching authority. The Church is an instrument of God’s grace, but it’s up to the individual members whether they are open to that grace, and sadly not all of them are. In a way, the Church’s human imperfection, and its’ ability to hold to such awesome, true and unchanging teachings in spite of weak and even evil human leaders over the years is one of the things that shows the truth of God’s promise that the gates of hell would not prevail against it.

The Catholic Church is faithful to those parables - the wheat and the tares, the net that catches all the fish - it’s for God, and not for us, to judge. We don’t claim to be a Church only for the ‘perfect’ or the ‘elect’. Even while the crusades were raging in the East, St Francis & St Dominic were courageously proclaiming the gospel by their exemplary lives and faithful teaching.

I think you’ve hit on an important point about faith and works though. I don’t think Catholics and Protestants believe anything significantly different about God. Where we tend to differ is in what we believe about humanity. Whereas Protestant theology often views God from an abstract perspective, and sees humanity as ‘utterly depraved’ incapable of doing any good, Catholicism appreciates that, for original sin to mean anything, there has to be a state of original grace which preceded it - our original virtue is marred by original sin, but not destroyed. If everything good and godly about humanity were destroyed, we would simply blink out of existence, because everything exists by the will of God.

One thing I found attractive about the Church was that it has an answer to the question “how can I be saved?” An answer which is theologically the same as the core of most Protestant teachings, but which is more rooted in our humanity - our need to do and to work, to see, hear, taste, touch and smell, to live in time, to make that time holy, to have ups and downs, to live together in community, to marry and have children, to know where we stand. An embodied faith, which knows that the desires of the flesh are sinful and need to be purified, but also acknowledges that we are a unity of body and soul, by God’s design, and we only have this one life, this life in the body, to grow closer to God.

God bless you in your search for Truth.
 
What did it for me was the fact that, at the Protestant churches I attended, the entire sermon consisted of a call to salvation. “You have to be saved!”, they would say. “Your life means nothing until you get saved!” “Get saved!” “Get saved!” Then, to top it all off, they would have the altar call so people could go down and get saved, as though scores of non-believers just happened to be coming to church every Sunday. Finally, I had enough. At one service I almost stood up and screamed, “I did it! I got saved! NOW WHAT!!??”

The fact is, that salvation seems to be an end of things for many Protestants, when in reality it is only the beginning. It was the Catholic emphasis on penance, conversion and works that drew me. Though I was ‘saved’ at an early age, I never felt like I was, because I still sinned. Obviously alot of Protestants don’t feel it, either, because they often answer the altar call to ‘rededicate’ their lives to Jesus. It was the Catholic teaching that salvation is a lifelong process that actually takes work, that did it for me.
 
This may sound odd, but I used to be a Missouri Synod Lutheran (the hard liners 😃 ) before converting about 20 years ago. The odd part may be that after a few years of examination, I really didn’t see much of a difference between being a Lutheran and being a Catholic.

Doctrinally, yes, there are differences, but I didn’t see that as an impediment, I saw “more available” in Catholicism that I could take advantage of than available to me as a Lutheran, if that makes sense.

But the day-to-day living of being a Catholic Christian and a Lutheran Christian…no significant difference to me. So, really there was no influence of scripture in my decision.
 
Just to elaborate, the abuse was not sexual (as some of you may think), it was physical punishment–that, even in those days, was considered excessive.

After-all, physical abuse was common in all schools when my father was young (in Australia anyway), but the stories he told me about his childhood when I was a child were actually pretty frightening. It wasn’t just a simple cane across the back of the hand. It was full-fledged beatings that left a child virtually incapacitated. I’m unsure if any other forms of abuse took place, but if they did, he wasn’t subjected to it. I just wanted to clear that up.

And Randy, you make a fantastic point there–one I’d never really considered. And certainly one I’d never heard about through Protestant teachings. Thanks a bunch for that.
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Hi,

I am converting because of the beauty and mystery of the Catholic Church. I want to integrate spirituality into my everyday life.

I am a nondenominal Christian.

Karen
 
To me what sparked the change was the fact that there is a line of popes going all the way back to Peter. Christ founded the Catholic Church, not the Protestant churches. When I discovered this, I was instantly hooked on the Catholic Church.
 
My husband and I were born again Christians. I had anti-Catholic sentiments instilled in me and willingly embraced them. Though my husband took issue with Church Doctrines, he always had a nostalgic sense of respect for the Church because of his mother once being Irish Catholic. The Catholic Church was not for us.

So through various chains of events in our lives…we were back-slidden Christians, unchurched, and almost to the point of not feeling guilty about it anymore. Last Christmas Eve, after another odd chain of events, we found ourselves at the midnight mass…a last resort for church on Christmas Eve.

I was surprised and pleased with how much scripture was a part of the mass. And I finally awknowledged that I didn’t know anything about the Catholic Church…and all the things I had rejected began to actually appeal to me. I wanted to know more. So we joined RCIA and the rest, as they say, is history.

I was impressed by Scriptual soundness of much of the Church Doctrine (I am still struggling with some…mainly Marian Doctrine…but I pray to God for forgivness if I am wrong, a sense of peace if I am right, and a sense of understanding regardless).

Some of the things that “sold” me are:

The Eucharist:…there is plenty of evidence in the Bible for it, though I couldn’t tell you right now…though there’s a segment in John 6 that really convinced me.

The worship of God and reminder of His presense using ALL senses:
(touch and taste through Holy Communion, holding the rosary; smell with the use of insense, sight with statues, icons, etc and of course hearing through the word, preaching and music,etc.)

Kneeling: sure, evangelicals kneel at the altar from time to time…but Catholics kneel constantly…we even have personal kneelers in the pews to accommodate kneeling before the Lord. Of course kneeling in God’s presense is all over the Bible.

The deuterocanical (sp?) books…I kind of took issue with Protestants arbitrarily throwing out parts of Holy Scripture because they didn’t have any spiritual value (according to them) or contradicted their interpretations. I realize now that the issue isn’t as simple as that…but I trust the Church’s authority and ruling on the matter.

The “ritualistic” traditions:. At one point, I deemed those as potential pitfalls for Catholics and I thought Catholics believed that if you went through the motions then you were saved. Now the rituals and formulated prayers appeal to me. I had always had a hard time coming up with prayers and they were insincere because I was so busy trying to come up with the words. I discovered that memorizing prewritten prayers (that were already rooted from scripture and often are paraphrased or even quote scripture) was a very sincere form of prayer for me. I already know the prayers by rote so I can concentrate on letting the words penetrate my heart and sincerely offer them up to God.

Another appeal about rituals and formal prayers is that I know I am privvy to falling off the bandwagon and becoming backslidden. But I can ‘go through the motions’ and it gets me back on track so that I am sincere once again.

The Music: When I reguarly attended evangelical services, I was becoming increasingly annoyed with the modern style music…the Praise Band. I am a singer…a classically trained singer…I suck at ‘pop’ music and I don’t enjoy singing it…not to mention that I think it’s cheap and corny. I like the free style worship from time to time…but not on a regular basis at my place of worship.
 
Do you guys mind if a new guy has a few questions? I promise I wont take up too much of your time 🙂

My understanding of Catholicism is probably rudimentary compared to the people here, but still I’d like to know why people convert to Catholicism from Protestant denominations.

What is it that sparks the change? What are doctrinal differences that made you say “this is the religion for me”? These are the two main questions I need answering: why people did it and consequently, the differences in doctrine that caused this change.

Any quotes from the Bible to back up your opinion is appreciated. I’m not looking for arguments, really, I’m a nice person and don’t like conflicts. If you want to “flame” people and use silly insults then please take your business else where. I can’t stand immaturity and would like this thread to be conducted in a friendly manner.

Links to external material would be cool too. Thanks, people.

P.S. I would like it if this thread got some good replies, not just for me, but for everyone who reads it.
I am in the process of converting from United Methodist.
The main things for me are:
  1. Not having to shut down half my brain when reading the bible (this is real, nope that is just a symbol, etc.)
  2. Prayer
  3. Grace
  4. The fact that the Catholic Church is intellectually consistent. I went to a Baptist church for a while and the thing I could never get the preacher to explain to me was how, without an ecclesiastical hierarchy, did he know that he had a clue what he was talking about since the people who taught him also were just figuring it out for themselves.
  5. Cold hard reason and logic: Either Jesus lied or he created the Catholic Church. He cannot lie therefore he created the Catholic Church. Confession (what you forgive on earth will be forgiven in heaven) the Eucharist (John 13, plus the road to Emmaus.) I could go on and on.
So, those are the primary reasons I wish to convert. I will swim the Tiber in either 2009 or 2010. Depends on Father Jim.
 
Hi, Jesse!

For me, it was something that I just felt when I attended Mass for the first few times. I had grown up “Baptist” but my parents stopped taking me to church when I was 12, so I knew that God existed, but I didn’t know the “right” way to worship Him ro show Him all my love. I tried different denominations of churches on my own, as well. At the other churches I had gone to, I felt I was showing Him an incomplete and imperfect form of love, and I didn’t feel that He deserved that.

While in college, I dated a guy whose family was Catholic and I attended Mass with them several times. I felt a tremendous sense of peace, tranquility, and seriousness of the Mass. It was what I think others are caling grace. I wasn’t sure of what I was feeling, but went to RCIA to learn more.

RCIA sealed the deal for me. I found answers to my questions that I had never known all my life. Once I knew that it was the Church that Jesus instituted, I knew where I belonged. What better way to show love to God than by being a member and worshipping him through His own Church?

It has not always been easy though, and all Catholics will bear their own crosses from time to time. Good luck in your swim!
 
I have not converted but am studying the Catholic Catechism and have been active in a Catholic parish in the past when I was married to a Catholic woman. I guess what is drawing me to the Catholic church is that it seems to actually STAND FOR SOMETHING and doesn,t cave in to the whims of pop secular culture especially abortion,homosexuality,divorce,etc.right know it seems I can no longer in good conscience attend the Episcopal Church mainly because of their stance on abortion and their allowing a practicing homosexual to be a bishop. In my study of theology I,m down to the Roman Catholic church and the Lutheran Church(lcms) as I believe that the body and blood of Jesus is present in the eucharist. right know I can,t in good conscience believe in papal infallibility,although I hold him as my spiritual leader and " first among equals"the Catholic church does appeal to the “radical Irish” in my blood,I can think of nothing more radical than being a Catholic Christian" in todays decadent society. In Christ.
 
Sarah Anne,

Your contribution to this thread was inspiring to me, as I was a born-again evangelical, also. I had an awful experience in my nondenominational church and vowed never to go back. Now I am beginning the RCIA process and have never been happier. I feel strongly that I am doing the right thing.

Thanks!

Karen
 
Sarah Anne,

Your contribution to this thread was inspiring to me, as I was a born-again evangelical, also. I had an awful experience in my nondenominational church and vowed never to go back. Now I am beginning the RCIA process and have never been happier. I feel strongly that I am doing the right thing.

Thanks!

Karen
I can’t believe someone actually read it. I didn’t realize how long it was until I hit ‘post’…lol. I was just so excited to be talking about my Catholic faith. My evangelical friends and family think I am wrong and am not being mindful of the Word of God. But it was the Word that led me here.
 
Keep talking about your Catholic faith! If I identified with what you said, I’m sure that many others did too.

I feel like that God “called” me to convert to Catholicism. I’ve wanted to since I was a child.

Karen
 
Keep talking about your Catholic faith! If I identified with what you said, I’m sure that many others did too.

I feel like that God “called” me to convert to Catholicism. I’ve wanted to since I was a child.

Karen
I know God led me here. My in-laws were in town last Christmas and insisted on a Christmas Eve service. I looked on the internet to see if there were any services here on post, only mass…none of us were Catholic. So I checked the big Baptist church in town. Their website said they had an 8pm mass. So we went…had a horrible time finding the darn place and when we get there…everyone was leaving, so we asked and they said the service was at 7pm not 8. At that hour, the only Christmas Eve service left in the area that we knew about was the Mass at the chapel on the military base where we live. I think God brought them here to drag us out to church, and put up road blocks for us to attend the church we were ‘comfortable’ with because he wanted us to go to Mass.
 
Sarah Anne,

That is amazing!

My dad was a Catholic, and I went to the Catholic Church a few times. I always wanted to be a Catholic, but my mother was dead-set against Catholicism. Now I am 56 years old and converting! I love the beauty of the Catholic Church. And there is so much to it. I am going to start RCIA this Wednesday night. When do you learn the prayers? I have memorized the Hail Mary and the Our Father and the Glory Be. That’s about it.

I thought that my husband would think that I was nuts for wanting to convert to Catholicism. But he was very accepting of it. I doubt that he will convert, too, but I’m sure that he will attend with me sometimes.

Julie

Karen
 
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