Those are actually 4 questions, trinity.
The questions are much too broad.
Development, enjoyment, creativity and fulfilment.
Dignity stems from the immense value of a rational, autonomous existence.
Identification with others.
There cannot be love without self-sacrifice.
:doh2: I obviously neglected to change the Title after I wrote the last question.
:doh2: I obviously neglected to change the Title after I wrote the last question.
But thanks for responding anyway.
Follow-ups for you… if you please.
- Why does living have value and purpose?
- Why do human beings have inherent dignity?
- A strong feeling of what sort of alikeness?
- In which cases is sacrifice inevitable?
You embrace a world view that renders such questions meaningless.
This is objectively false and meaningless given metaphysical naturalism.
This is objectively false and meaningless given metaphysical naturalism.
There are different shades of love given a theistic world view. Love isn’t just a feeling, its an action.
This is objectively false given a theistic world view.
It has the value and purpose that the living beings attach to it.:doh2: I obviously neglected to change the Title after I wrote the last question.
But thanks for responding anyway.
Follow-ups for you… if you please.
- Why does living have value and purpose?
That’s difficult to answer, because I’m not quite sure what ‘diginity’ means in this context. I suppose we experience dignity when we live our lives as social beings.
A strong feeling that we are all human beings who have much more in common than we differ. We love other people because we regnognize a lot of ourselves in the other persons. We identify with them.
In cases where a sacrifice has to be made in order to obtain some ‘greater good’. I sincerely hope that there will very few few instances in which sacrifice is necessary, because I do not see the value of sacrifice in and out of itself.
I believe that human beings are good anyway, with or without God.
You either don’t know or you do. If you do know, then there is at least the potentiality for you to come to a realisation of the root cause of its meaning.
No, rather something is either a principle depends on a principle. There can’t be infinite regress, and human beings are not good per se, so the goodness of human beings must depend on something that is good in itself, and that would be God.
I see no reason to suppose that human beings are not good per se; And if there is such a reason, I see no reason to think that anything else is good per se.
Both are subjective. It’s obvious by your question that you assume it must be objective.
Yes, without it we would die off. As we have gotten here through a successful line, if we didn’t half inherent dignity we would cease and that’s that. Nevertheless here we are having this conversation and we have not ceased yet.
Subjective again, but we enjoy others fulfilling our needs as we also fulfill theirs.
Given all possible known options, we must take ones that lead to the greatest benefit. i.e. killing skin cells for research could ultimately save millions of humans from a disease.
Did you sleep through the twentieth century?
No, I didn’t sleep through the 20th century. Lots of good happened in the 20th century, much more good than bad, IMO.
An opinion to which you are of course entitled. Never thought of the Holocaust as a “mistake”, but you do have a point; never thought of Stalinism as an “escalation”, but you may be right; it may all boil down to human imperfection.
The Holocaust was the work of a few sociopaths or psychopaths who managed to persuade other people that this was the right thing to do. Very much like the crusades or the inquisition. Point is, the fact that people are good per se does not entail that none of them can be bad.
The alternative is that the Holocaust and Stalinism were all part of God’s plan.
***Friend consider these facts and then reach your own conclusion:
I would rather an argument for (or against) God based on human nature the following questions:
What is the value and purpose of life?
Do human beings have inherent dignity?
What is love?
What is the importance of sacrifice?
Just curious.
Of course, too profound for meaningful answers here, but very interesting, and thank you for asking.
The value and purpose of life?
To love God.
Do humans have inherent dignity?
Not enough, per se, to prevent submission to Hell.
What is love?
God.
What is the importance of sacrifice?
To atone, to the will of God, over the will of self.