Questions on Protestant Salvation

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1- Really. :tsktsk: Isn’t that why your ancient “holy ones” (lol) burned the Protestants at the stake? For being heretics? Yep, I’d love to follow that teaching.

2- But for scriptures sake…the Bible is what teaches me. I actually read it. Over and over. 🙂 And my “man-made ideas” come from the Apostle Paul. I don’t back my “ideas” up with what my church says because I don’t agree with them on everything. I am not a brainwashed robot. I read the Bible and test what people say to it’s teachings and if they don’t line up, I don’t accept the teachings.
1- Kind of like Calvin burning Servetus at the stake for being a heretic? Sorry but there are many examples of protestants doing the same thing. It doesn’t justify it for anyone, however.

2- This is the part of Sola Scriptura that was always hard for me to understand. There are many conflicting ideas about salvation in protestantism so you must be very confident that your interpretation trumps that of many others. My question is why do you think that you were given the gift of correct exegesis and not the pastor of a different church down the street or a Seventh Day Adventist or the first Christians taught by the apostles?
 
Shame on you for speaking to someone who is trying to understand different doctrine in the hopes of finding unity. You remind me of the Pharisees that Jesus rebuked for being pious. Perhaps you should spend time on your knees with Jesus and listen to the Holy Spirit regarding these matters.
You remind me of the wise old man who got so angry at the donkey as to give him a beating, only to find out that the poor thing, despite the fact that he was only a beast, was simply allowed by God to see something that the wise man could not yet see.

You don’t hurt me by telling me what I already know, about my sinfulness, my arrogance, and the fact that I deserve nothing but rebuking by the beloved Lord. “My disgrace is before me all day long, and my face is covered with shame.”

However, our Lord, rebuking the arrogant teachers, did not tell the people, shame on their teachings. No, He said instead: “do not act as they do, but do listen to what they say, because they sit on the Chair of Moses.”.

In the same way, what moved you to be angry was the way I posted what I posted, not what I posted, because what I posted is not my own. And nothing would have felt better than to run away and refrain from writing that message to you, or to fall into a false ecumenism and tell you all it’s good, but it is a most sorrowful duty that even a most wretched sinner like me, when given knowledge about something truthful, is under obligation before the living God to transmit the teaching and refuse the errors.

Others have already answered to your post in very enlightened ways. I will limit myself to reminding you - in all humbleness, since I am one of the worst writers of arguments - that to dismiss an argument and attack the arguer is a fallacious way of arguing called argumentum ad hominem, in which a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person’s claim or claims. This line of “reasoning” is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim.

Therefore I invite you to direct all your anger towards my wretched self and to re-examine what I have posted for what it contains, and only if you can dismiss my claims and answer my questions with reasonable soundness, then you can move on - otherwise, you are not doing your job well in searching for the truth.
 
And nothing would have felt better than to run away and refrain from writing that message to you, or to fall into a false ecumenism and tell you all it’s good, but it is a most sorrowful duty that even a most wretched sinner like me, when given knowledge about something truthful, is under obligation before the living God to transmit the teaching and refuse the errors.
Excellent post. 👍
 
The New Testament makes no mention of Purgatory. After Jesus died on the cross we have no reason to believe there is any place other than Heaven or Hell left to go to. Also, the truth is God’s Word. Why does everyone keep referring to Catholic teaching as the real truth? :confused: I would be naive to think that everything the Protestant churches taught was Biblical. The Bible is the only solid truth we have and anything else is doctrine by which Priests and Pastors alike can make mistakes in teaching.
The bible itself says that there are teachings we should adhere to that are not in the bible (2nd thes. 2:15, and 1st Corinthians 11:33 for example). The bible does not say that the word of God is exclusively written. In fact all through the new testament the word of God is portrayed as having been preached, and heard.The Catholic church says 1 cor. 3:13-14 is talking about Purgatory. If not then what is it talking about? Sure sounds like Purgatory to me. Where are you going to get these teachings that Paul says are not in the bible
(2nd thes. 2:15). From a church that has only been there a few hundred years? or the one church that has been there from the beginning?
 
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