I am not Anti-Catholic, I am Anti-DisRespect. I do not hate Catholics, I consider yall brothers in christ, even if yall do not consider me the same, I love you, even if you hate me.
Questions:
- Mary and Saints, do you pray for them to pray with you or for you? Scripture please
**Mathew 18:20
“Where two or more are in my name there I Am”
Mary is at the foot of the Cross praying for Jesus at the hour of his death.
Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me."
The saints are more alive than we are, here on earth. They are in heaven praying and interceding for us.
Revelations 8:3
Another angel came and stood at the altar, 3 holding a gold censer. He was given a great quantity of incense to offer,** along with the prayers of all the holy ones, on the gold altar that was before the throne. ****4
**The smoke of the incense along with the prayers of the holy ones went up before God from the hand of the angel. **
This follows the doctrine of the communion of saints. for to God whether we are alive or asleep we are all alive to God who loves us, that not even death can seperate us from the living God. Ask Moses and Elijah who went to visit Jesus in the transfiguration.
Here we have the first Christian saints in heaven which includes the first 30 popes who all died a martyrs death for Jesus and his Catholic church, praying for vengence;
Revelation 6:9
When he broke open the fifth seal,** I saw underneath the altar 8 the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God. **10
They cried out in a loud voice, “How long will it be, holy and true master, 9 before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”
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Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to be patient a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been.
- Purgatory, I know what it is, after reading about 2 dozen answers of it, but scripture?
**2Maccabees 42
7 Turning to supplication, they prayed that the sinful deed might be fully blotted out. The noble Judas warned the soldiers to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen.
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He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view;
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for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death.
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But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought.
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**Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. ****
The ancient Jews believe in a waiting place, the first apostles and the Catholic church believe in a soul waiting place after death, where nothing unclean will enter heaven. Purgatory is the burning of any stains left from sin prior to death that are not mortal. If they are mortal sin, to hell, if they are not deadly through the purging of or removing of these stains before entering heaven. Every penny will paid. Catholics call this place of the soul cleansing purgatory.
- Apostles, I talked to a Catholic friend frm here about it, but would like more detail if possible: Why doesn’t it say they handed their ability to forgive sins throug Jesus down to their successors, and where are their successors? I do not hear of apostles now, in the current date.
**The Catholic Bishops are referred to as apostles. It is written.
here is Jesus praying for the consecration of the apostles and for those after them; Notice Jesus makes it clear that he will always be with them, as he is in the father;
John 17;14
I gave them your word, and the world hated them, because they do not belong to the world any more than I belong to the world.
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6 I do not ask that you take them out of the world but that you keep them from the evil one.
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They do not belong to the world any more than I belong to the world.
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Consecrate them in the truth. Your word is truth.
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As you sent me into the world, so I sent them into the world.
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And I consecrate myself for them, so that they also may be consecrated in truth.
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“I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word,
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so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me.
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And I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are one,
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I in them and you in me, that they may be brought to perfection as one, that the world may know that you sent me, and that you loved them even as you loved me.
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Father, they are your gift to me. I wish that where I am 7 they also may be with me, that they may see my glory that you gave me, because you loved me before the foundation of the world.
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Righteous Father, the world also does not know you, but I know you, and they know that you sent me.
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I made known to them your name and I will make it known, 8 that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in them.”
The Catholic church and the magesterium are the body of Jesus christ;
Ephesians 2 (see also chapt.4-6) 17
He came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near,
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for through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father.
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So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God,
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built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. 10
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Through him the whole structure is held together and grows into a temple sacred in the Lord;
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in him you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
Ephesians 4:4
2 one body and one Spirit, as you were also called to the one hope of your call;
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one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
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one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
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But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
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Therefore, it says: “He ascended 3 on high and took prisoners captive; he gave gifts to men.”
Acts 1:8
6 But you will receive power when the holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
Here Jesus commands the first Pope singularly to feed and tend his sheep with all the other apostles present at breakfast.
John 21:15
8 9 10 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.”
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He then said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.”
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He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.**
