Questions pertaining to marriage

[57thDimension]

I think you missed the point. St. Thomas Aquinas is refuting that position, not agreeing with it.

Oh dear, I guess that was just wishful thinking on my part.

+Sebastian

 

[57thDimension]

Thank you all again for your replies. It would seem that it was the optimal situation for me to find out this information before I ever seriously considered marriage (to someone in particular).

Please pray for me and for whichever vocation I may follow in my life.

+Sebastian

 

[superamazingman]

1. Whether you see nothing wrong with it is entirely beside the point, because you are not the Church.
2. Everything about St. Cecilia is apocryphal. She lived 1800 years ago and we have no factual accounts of her life.

Bottom Line: If you wish to enter into a josephite marriage, then knock yourself out. Find a girl who’ll agree to it and then the both of you bring it to your spiritual director / parish priest. Get his blessing and you’re good to go. Otherwise, just don’t get married. There’s nothing wrong with staying single (whether as religious or not) if you aren’t being called to marriage.

Good advise, but isn’t the unconsecrated single life not a long-term vocation, and shouldn’t we be striving to enter our long-term vocations? I mean if you’re not called to be married, then you can become a consecrated virgin, but I know somewhere in one of JPII’s documents he explained that the unconsecrated single life not a “capital V” vocation (like marriage or priesthood).

 

[joanofarc2008]

Thank you all again for your replies. It would seem that it was the optimal situation for me to find out this information before I ever seriously considered marriage (to someone in particular).

Please pray for me and for whichever vocation I may follow in my life.

+Sebastian

The thing you have to remember as well when looking at the priesthood or religious life is that it is not just about giving up sex. It is about making the Sacrifice for the sake of the Kingdom - not because the thought of something puts their stomach in knots. In other words you cannot sacrifice that you haven’t got. If you are not a good candidate for marriage you are most likely a poor candidate for religious life. It is about having a calling.

 

[Mayita30]

And one aspect is lack of sexual relations. So why not have that in marriage?

The way this:* “I say this as a concession, not as a command.”*
was interpreted for me is that you have to be married to have sex, but you do not have to have sex if you are married.

+Sebastian

Celibacy is not for marriage. Chastity IS for marriage.

 

[Sillara]

Good advise, but isn’t the unconsecrated single life not a long-term vocation, and shouldn’t we be striving to enter our long-term vocations? I mean if you’re not called to be married, then you can become a consecrated virgin, but I know somewhere in one of JPII’s documents he explained that the unconsecrated single life not a “capital V” vocation (like marriage or priesthood).

Could you please point me to this? I have always read that this was the case, but I wanted to find JPII’s writings on it.

 

[superamazingman]

Could you please point me to this? I have always read that this was the case, but I wanted to find JPII’s writings on it.

I don’t have the time to right now, but I think it might have been in one of his letters/documents that were to/about women. Let me know if you find it!