NO.I’m going to dance in a Quinceañera in the month of August,the Quinceañera’s mom didn’t find a Catholic priest to offer the mass of thanksgiving. However she found a priest who is not in communion with our bishop, should I receive communion during the service?
The daugther goes to R.E. classes every Tuesday and they are quite active in the Church but the mother had problems with the priest who told her a Quinceañera is not that important to the church.go to the dance if you are close to the family but skip the service, which is not a Mass. nor is it a sacrament. it is a farce actually to have anything in Church since the point of the religious celebration is commemorating the child’s baptism and reception of communion (NOT a coming of age or debut). Family obviously has not been active in the Church or their own parish if they “could not find a priest” nor has the child been receiving religious education–the usual reason why a parish would decline to offer a church celebration of this event. At least some evidence of actual participation in Mass and the sacraments is necessary in order to celebrate that participation. Perhaps you can help them “find a priest”, call the diocesan office and ask for someone in charge of Hispanic ministry.
and no, if you find you must attend due to family reasons, you may not receive communion if the “Mass” is not licit. strongly urge the family to have whatever celebration they arrange without a communion service if you have any influence and they refuse to do this in the Catholic parish
In the Denver area, there are some parishes that seem to have at least one Quinceañera a month, but other parishes have never heard of them. It depends on the community.The daugther goes to R.E. classes every Tuesday and they are quite active in the Church but the mother had problems with the priest who told her a Quinceañera is not that important to the church.
then you can be of service by pointing out to their pastor that the bishops do have a suggested rite for this celebration, which explains the religious significance, and that our last two popes have encouraged respect for popular piety of various cultures when they do not conflict with Church practice. the priest needs educating, but obviously the parents need educating too if they are will to engage a dissident priest for this event. you are blessed to be able to help.The daugther goes to R.E. classes every Tuesday and they are quite active in the Church but the mother had problems with the priest who told her a Quinceañera is not that important to the church.
How can this celebration be a means of strengthening the faith of Latino youth?
Adults have a responsibility to pass on the faith to younger members of the community. The celebration of quince años is a crucial time in the life of a young Hispanic woman. While society invites youth to gang membership, drug and alcohol abuse and irresponsible sexual behavior, the Church can offer the quinceañera an opportunity to reflect on her role as a Catholic Christian woman in a society which often distorts the woman’s role.
The U.S. Bishops’ pastoral letter, Renewing the Vision: A Framework for Catholic Youth Ministry is a call to personal discipleship, evangelization and leadership of youth so strong that the bishops ask the entire Church to make ministry with adolescents its concern as well. The letter focuses on three goals: empowering young people to live as disciples of Christ in today’s world; drawing young people to responsible participation in the life, mission and work of the faith community; and fostering the personal and spiritual growth of each young person.
The quinceañera ritual is valuable for the religious message it sends not only to young people, but also to parents, grandparents, godparents and the entire parish in calling
Of all the liturgical abuses in the United States, this nonissue is the one they chose to pick on?
How did you draw the conclusion that Fr. Julio was suspended for celebrating Quinceaneras?Why was Fr. Julio suspended for celebrating Quinceañeras? The USCCB has allowed and encouraged this.
The OP said he “broke away after he continued celebrating Mass even though the Bishop prevented him from celebrating it,” so I assumed he was celebrating Quinceaneras.How did you draw the conclusion that Fr. Julio was suspended for celebrating Quinceaneras?
There are any number of reasons why a Bishop might have suspended a priest from celebrating Mass. None of them have anything to do with quinceañeras.The OP said he “broke away after he continued celebrating Mass even though the Bishop prevented him from celebrating it,” so I assumed he was celebrating Quinceaneras.
Plus, the fact that their parish priest is against it and that they couldn’t find anyone else to do it except a renegade priest also led me to that conclusion.
He was charged for fraud or something similar it was 16 years ago so I don’t know that much. I think they also accused him of arsonWhy was Fr. Julio suspended for celebrating Quinceañeras? The USCCB has allowed and encouraged this.
Of all the liturgical abuses in the United States, this nonissue is the one they chose to pick on?
The Parish Priest is not agaisnt it, he just said it was not important.The OP said he “broke away after he continued celebrating Mass even though the Bishop prevented him from celebrating it,” so I assumed he was celebrating Quinceaneras.
Plus, the fact that their parish priest is against it and that they couldn’t find anyone else to do it except a renegade priest also led me to that conclusion.
Allow me to shed some light into this situation. Our former diocesan director for Divine Worship (the second one we’ve had) was a part of the USCCB team that worked on the Quincenera ritual that was subsequently sent to Rome for recognitio.The Parish Priest is not agaisnt it, he just said it was not important.
Actually, that is how these were handled at the Cathedral during the term of the first rector. The deacon would preside over the Liturgy of the Word with Holy Communion. The Quincenera would receive her blessing and it was perfectly licit.In our diocese, we have bilingual deacons that celebrate these birthdays with a communion service, when a priest is not available. This communion, consecrated by a priest in union with his bishop is better than going to a priest that has no valid faculties in the diocese.