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CuriousMike
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Same here. Only trouble is, boys can’t be Nuns!
Seeing as they’re so closely bound with the ICKSP - I suppose thats the next port of call?
(Funnily enough I’ve looked into their order before, too).
QUIZ:- What Catholic Religious Order Fits Your Personality?
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Seeing as they’re so closely bound with the ICKSP - I suppose thats the next port of call?
(Funnily enough I’ve looked into their order before, too).
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drforjc
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Carmelites. No surprise as I’m a Lay Carmelite.
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Mongo
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Maybe you should learn something from the east, who calls her st Mary. And we are just as catholic as you westerners.
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friardchips
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The RCC started from the East, with St. Peter and the Apostles. Roman Catholicism is not initially ‘western’ though the Papacy and Magisterium is situated in Rome. I think the term ‘western’, though it is used, is inaccurate for that very reason. Or rather, tends to be misused. The RCC comes as much from the East as the Eastern churches. The Holy Father is the Successor of St. Peter who was not Italian, he was Jewish. And he is our first Pope. So where the journey may have taken a route to the west does make the RCC a ‘western’ religion. Hence, I imagine, why Pope Francis has spoken of eastern routes in the future. Not because we look to the Eastern churches as some kind of succession to the RCC - we are ‘sister Churches’ - but I would imagine because he wishes to guide our Church back towards her original heritage founded in the East.
I hold to the truth that Mary is Our Lady Queen of Saints. This is developed knowledge from throughout the centuries with the prayerful intercession of many a great saint and Pope, and all other Christian faithful. Respectfully, if you don’t believe me, then please read the CCC.
Thanks for responding to my post.
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friardchips
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Mongo, respectfully, would you like me to provide some CCC citations for you? 
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christofirst
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Right or wrong, you have the heart of a crusader! One word comes to mind here: hyperdulia, the special veneration due to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Calling her Saint Mary in no way detracts from this special status, as proven by the countless bishops of our Church, both throughout history and now, who have approved this title. But if you feel it somehow lacks respect, keep using the title you feel is most appropriate. I think, however, that you will find yourself to be a crusader of one if you insist that everyone else follow your lead, especially if you insist that the Church in any way rejects the title Saint Mary, which it does not.Seems as if my opposition might have achieved only what I set out to oppose. Kind of ironic. :imsorry:
Great threads, OP. Have a blessed Advent.
Its time for my yoga practice now, so I bid you good day
. God bless you!
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friardchips
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Right or wrong, you have the heart of a crusader! One word comes to mind here: hyperdulia, the special veneration due to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Calling her Saint Mary in no way detracts from this special status, as proven by the countless bishops of our Church, both throughout history and now, who have approved this title. But if you feel it somehow lacks respect, keep using the title you feel is most appropriate. I think, however, that you will find yourself to be a crusader of one if you insist that everyone else follow your lead, especially if you insist that the Church in any way rejects the title Saint Mary, which it does not.
Its time for my yoga practice now, so I bid you good day
Thanks Christofirst! Definitely come to the conclusion that there is going to be a lot of agreeing-to-disagree for some time into the distant future! 
Hope you enjoy your workout! Take care.
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friardchips
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‘Dulia’ is for the saints and ‘Hyperdulia’ for Veneration/Devotion to the Blessed Virgin. The word ‘hyperdulia’ not found in Oxford Dictionary mad. Clear distinction between the two. Also to note, that the Dogma of The Immaculate Conception and the apparitions had not come about yet in the time of the early Bishops and so we have this to our advantage in being able to understand; that said, many early Church Fathers interpreted from Scripture the very special devotion due to the our Holy Mother, so many of them, in fact, that we might as well say that all the early saints recognised this truth. As the CCC clearly says, the faith of the whole Church does not err, and so she has not erred. In addition, there is a hierarchy. A kind of hierarchy of humility. We know there is hierarchy in grace, because there are realms and dominions of angels. And so it must apply to the rest of Heaven. Apart from the Creator Himself - no one outdoes Him in generosity - Our Lady is not to be matched in humility - as His Mother, Spouse and Daughter - and then we have the humility of the saints. I think everyone knows this deep down so not sure why there is any counter-argument. There are countless reasons why the proper address is either Holy Mother, Mother of Mercy, Blessed Virgin, Immaculate Conception, Queen of Saints, Queen of Heaven, Queen of Angels…and I can assure you that Litanies DO NOT, not truly Catholic ones, have any reference to a ‘Saint Mary’ - which Saint Mary would that be? I’m sure there have been many St. Marys?! To distinguish between a saint and our Holy Mother is not only a matter of personal choice, it is a matter of correct form, and moreso, a matter of reverence for the Blessed Virgin, in the Order of Grace. :harp:
Still not comfortable with a women’s Order as my best choice!
The word ‘hyperdulia’ not found in Oxford Dictionary mad. Clear distinction between the two. Also to note, that the Dogma of The Immaculate Conception and the apparitions had not come about yet in the time of the early Bishops and so we have this to our advantage in being able to understand; that said, many early Church Fathers interpreted from Scripture the very special devotion due to the our Holy Mother, so many of them, in fact, that we might as well say that all the early saints recognised this truth. As the CCC clearly says, the faith of the whole Church does not err, and so she has not erred. In addition, there is a hierarchy. A kind of hierarchy of humility. We know there is hierarchy in grace, because there are realms and dominions of angels. And so it must apply to the rest of Heaven. Apart from the Creator Himself - no one outdoes Him in generosity - Our Lady is not to be matched in humility - as His Mother, Spouse and Daughter - and then we have the humility of the saints. I think everyone knows this deep down so not sure why there is any counter-argument. There are countless reasons why the proper address is either Holy Mother, Mother of Mercy, Blessed Virgin, Immaculate Conception, Queen of Saints, Queen of Heaven, Queen of Angels…and I can assure you that Litanies DO NOT, not truly Catholic ones, have any reference to a ‘Saint Mary’ - which Saint Mary would that be? I’m sure there have been many St. Marys?! To distinguish between a saint and our Holy Mother is not only a matter of personal choice, it is a matter of correct form, and moreso, a matter of reverence for the Blessed Virgin, in the Order of Grace. :harp:Still not comfortable with a women’s Order as my best choice!
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mommyof4
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Holy Spirit Adoration Nuns
Your deep appreciation for silent prayer and worshiping God mean you would make an excellent Holy Spirit Adoration Sister. These nuns wear beautiful pink habits–rose is the color of joy–and spend their cloistered, contemplative lives in perpetual Adoration.
Your deep appreciation for silent prayer and worshiping God mean you would make an excellent Holy Spirit Adoration Sister. These nuns wear beautiful pink habits–rose is the color of joy–and spend their cloistered, contemplative lives in perpetual Adoration.
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Moro_Rock
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I drew Sisters of Life which is cool !
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Sunbreak
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Mine turned out to be Franciscan. That was a surprise for me.
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lilpoppie
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I am being tied to a bungee cord as we speak. Please kick me as I exit the breathable hellhole of planet Zynogito with a bottle of pee-wine
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