Qu'ran Gay Math Rule

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Ok, please read carefully:

A friar told me that God did not make Gays for the purpose of sending them to hell. That God wouldn’t make 10% of a population just to damn them to hell.

Now, the Qu’ran has a higher population than Gays or at least quite a large number of followers/believers. SO, the Muslims say Archangels met with Mohammed and so forth but this was after the New Testament was finalized. (Revelation says whoever adds or takes away from this book is pretty much screwed).

So… Help me make sense of this: It is not for us to say if Angels can or can’t meet with human beings between Revelation until the End of Days, Gays are too high a population to send to hell for that, but Muslims are/aren’t “evil” because we can’t tell if an Archangel really spoke with their Prophet, yet we can say for sure our Saints spoke with Angels, and there is nothing hypocritical or misaligned in any of this, but the Church teachings are infallible.
 
Well Gods will is for all to be saved.
God creating somebody destined to hell, would be contradictory to the statement above.

Now we don’t know, maybe angels can or can not show up, I personally think the Church will be guided by the holy spirit since Jesus founded it, so its best to trust the Church. The Qu’ran has many other problems than just that, like not seeing Jesus as the prophet etc.
Anybody can say they saw an angel for x and y reason, but its up to reason to decide whather its true or not, and if God really had something to say, he would probbably do it over the church or Jesus himself and not some folks from other religions
 
CatholicSpirit said:
Ok, please read carefully:

A friar told me that God did not make Gays for the purpose of sending them to hell. That God wouldn’t make 10% of a population just to damn them to hell.
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Well, for starters, the percentage of folks who are any sort of non-traditional gender/sexuality is roughly 5% total. Gays make up 2-3%. I can cite the numbers if you’d like. 10% is way too high.

So… Help me make sense of this:
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As it pertains to the individual, we simply cannot know who is saved or damned. Literally every person on the planet has hope.
 
I should have made a diagram for what I’m trying to ask. If I did It would probably be like:
  1. Is anyone making books past Revelation auto-wrong: Y/N
  2. Can Angels carrying books of messages supersede that: Y/N
2Na: Destined for hell as a result?: Y/N

2Yb: In comparison to Gays not being on auto-hell? Y/N
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CatholicSpirit said:
I should have made a diagram for what I’m trying to ask. If I did It would probably be like:
  1. Is anyone making books past Revelation auto-wrong: Y/N
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This can’t be answered with a binary Y/N answer. While the PUBLIC revelation that all Catholics are bound to ended with the death of the Apostle John (IIRC), PRIVATE revelations, when properly vetted and endorsed by the Church (such as Fatima) are OK to believe, though a Catholic is not bound under pain of sin to believe them.
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  1. Can Angels carrying books of messages supersede that: Y/N
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NO. No angel would be giving out new public revelation. Especially that which contradicts the Gospels.
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2Na: Destined for hell as a result?: Y/N

2Yb: In comparison to Gays not being on auto-hell? Y/N
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No one is “auto-destined” for Hell. Whatever the Muslims believe, we can’t speak to that. we have testimony from Christ and from the writings of the saints that while Hell is a reality, God would NEVER create something intentionally so it would go to Hell without fail.

Think it through. God so loved us that he created us. We occupy his thoughts so that we remain in existence. If he hated something so much he wanted it to be in Hell, why waste the effort (even with his omnipotence) to create it in the first place?
 
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I should have made a diagram for what I’m trying to ask.
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Yes, I think you should’ve. My head was spinning, trying to make sense of the connections you were trying to draw… 🤣
  1. Is anyone making books past Revelation auto-wrong: Y/N
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There is no public revelation following the death of the last apostle.

Therefore, if someone does claim that they’ve received public divine revelation, then they are objectively mistaken.
  1. Can Angels carrying books of messages supersede that: Y/N
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Can they supercede the fact that there is no additional public revelation? No.

Can private revelation exist in the post-apostolic age? Yes… but for it to be valid private revelation, it cannot contradict the Deposit of the Faith
2Na: Destined for hell as a result?: Y/N
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That’s a question above our pay grade. 😉
Only God can judge whether someone is in a state of grace or not; only God can say whether someone is culpable for their sins.
2Yb: In comparison to Gays not being on auto-hell? Y/N
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Umm… pardon? I’m getting confused with this “auto-hell” thing. You seem to be suggesting that, by virtue of a particular action, whether a person loses all potential for salvation. The Church does not teach that – anyone, even one who has committed a heinous sin, may repent and be forgiven and may return to a state of grace.
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Profit!

(Oh… wait. That was “2: … 3: Profit!” 🤣 )
 
Good info! I now have something to read up on… “Deposit of the Faith.” That sounds very important… and I hope it airs to the side of something good. So true about the culpable part and all that, I’ve even been told murder in confession is forgivable, but I don’t go around talking about it. The whole thing came about when I felt like I went way overboard and threw a sin out there I was told in Sunday school was a no-go as an example. Sure enough, I was like “wow, I guess putting it all out there is the right thing to do!”

My whole family thinks I’m nuts with religion… but hey, that’s how it goes sometimes. The more you know…! I’m hoping on the other side to be given the crown of life and live in heaven.
 
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Huh? Never mind making sense of this (which may be impossible based on the premise), why waste time thinking about it?

Just saying.
 
It’s just how some mathematical people are with religion. “Rules” are like, RULES, know what I mean? We have major rule exceptions thanks to Jesus Christ… Hard in an ever changing world and mass media flying at you to make logic
 
Gorgias, dude, total “aha” moment here. Found the Vatican.va site about this and something spoke out BIGTIME.

Quoting Jesus in the book of luke (Jedi style, jk inside joke), we have scripture that says “he who hears you hears me” and that power is passed onto us when we evangelize.

In my heart mind and spirit I felt a memory of trying to explain religion to someone and was like, “he was connected through me to them spiritually.” This is very cool, made my day for sure!
 
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