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Is there any scripture that has Christ apologizing to anyone or any group?

Even if it’s an act of humility and charity?

TIA
 
Eduardo06sp said:
Jesus forgives sins. He also healed the sick.

"And just then some people were carrying a paralyzed man lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” NRSV-CE
Matthew 9:2

In the same chapter, Jesus heals the paralytic.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%209:2,6;%20Mark%202:5,10;%20Luke%205:20,24;7:47-50;%20Acts%205:31
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Eduardo THANK YOU!!

It wasnt exactly the answer I was looking for, but yet it was the answer I needed.

God Bless you.
 
Marie5890 said:
Is there any scripture that has Christ apologizing to anyone or any group?

Even if it’s an act of humility and charity?

TIA
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I don’t believe so (personal opinion); why would God apologize? One apologizes if one has made an error or has acted wrongly. . .and surely Christ is not guilty of either.
 
Marie5890 said:
Eduardo THANK YOU!!

It wasnt exactly the answer I was looking for, but yet it was the answer I needed.

God Bless you.
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Marie --I’m glad Eduardo was able to find that for you. Much more helpful!
 
You’re welcome Marie5890!
As already stated, Jesus has no reason to apologize to us.
Why would God apologize to us?

Jesus lived a perfect life. He never offended anyone, thus there is nothing he has to apologize for.
 
Eduardo06sp said:
You’re welcome Marie5890!
As already stated, Jesus has no reason to apologize to us.
Why would God apologize to us?

Jesus lived a perfect life. He never offended anyone, thus there is nothing he has to apologize for.
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Well there were people who were offended at what He said. Do you understand what I mean?

Like John6:66…many were offended and left Him then.

What I am struggling with is that even though I havent done anything wrong, others were offended, and needed to hear an apology to help them (hopefully help them, it may not)

So I apologized yet I was struggling with that.

(sorta like when a husband apologizes to his wife because she is upset, even though he really didnt do anything wrong, But the wife is still hurt. Make sense? That was my struggle)

So I realized I needed to forgive them for needing an apology. Make sense?
 
Marie5890, Jesus’ disciples fled because of what He taught. He was teaching them about His Body and Blood. (John 6:22:71)
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A22-71&version=NRSVCE

At the time of the Jews, drinking any type of blood was forbidden. Drinking human blood was unthinkable. This is why many disciples left Him.
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I understand what you’re saying. Let’s say that Jesus were to apologize. What would He say? I don’t see how an apology is necessary here. If He were to apologize, then wouldn’t he have to reject what He just taught them? Would that not make Him a liar?
But our Lord is not a liar, nor will He force people to believe in Him. His disciples had a free choice, and they decided to leave.
 
Marie5890 said:
Well there were people who were offended at what He said. Do you understand what I mean?

Like John6:66…many were offended and left Him then.

What I am struggling with is that even though I havent done anything wrong, others were offended, and needed to hear an apology to help them (hopefully help them, it may not)

So I apologized yet I was struggling with that.

(sorta like when a husband apologizes to his wife because she is upset, even though he really didnt do anything wrong, But the wife is still hurt. Make sense? That was my struggle)

So I realized I needed to forgive them for needing an apology. Make sense?
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Jesus’ motivations were never self-centered, like ours so often are. He wasn’t interested in being diplomatic, but in teaching the truth. Many were offended by his teaching because it would take power away from them or because they couldn’t grasp what he was saying because of the blindness of their own hearts. We can’t always be responsible for how others will react to what we say or do when we are saying/doing the right thing. We do, however, need to remember that, unlike Our Lord, we are fallen creatures, so we need to correct others with love and humility, knowing we are no better than anyone else.
 
Della said:
Jesus’ motivations were never self-centered, like ours so often are. He wasn’t interested in being diplomatic, but in teaching the truth. Many were offended by his teaching because it would take power away from them or because they couldn’t grasp what he was saying because of the blindness of their own hearts. We can’t always be responsible for how others will react to what we say or do when we are saying/doing the right thing. We do, however, need to remember that, unlike Our Lord, we are fallen creatures, so we need to correct others with love and humility, knowing we are no better than anyone else.
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Agree completely! 🙂

Still not quite what I was trying to get to, but that is closer for sure.

Perhaps it’s along the lines of whether we, since we are fallen, sometimes are so insecure in ourselves, that we believe an apology is owed us because we feel so broken? :confused:

Something for me to ponder on for sure.
It’s one of those grey areas of “what does authentic Disciple of Our Lord” that I am trying to discern.

Sometimes it takes me some time in contemplating what the culture says is “right” and what Christ Himself taught and unwinding the two.
How to deal with people charitably without losing authenticity/credibility sense of discipleship.

And how does authentic humility demonstrate itself as well… 😊

So much to consider. 🙂

Thanks for all of your (name removed by moderator)ut. 🙂
 
Marie5890 said:
  1. Something for me to ponder on for sure.
    It’s one of those grey areas of “what does authentic Disciple of Our Lord” that I am trying to discern.
  2. And how does authentic humility demonstrate itself as well… 😊
So much to consider. 🙂

Thanks for all of your (name removed by moderator)ut. 🙂
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I accuse myself of losing my authority by negligence to the good work that needs to be done to open up to the outskirts. I accuse myself of negligence in being truly universal. I accuse myself of a standpoint that limits others to engage me. I am in need of grace at every moment. Only what is true.
  1. Consider Psalm 32 and Luke 1:77 - Here we find a consideration, admission of sin and instruction from Our Lord. Disciples are instructed. Instruction is found in the Church. Therefore, when we find the Church we are ready to be instructed. Further, those who are not ready to be instructed might have stepped into the rectory but they have not stepped into the tabernacle.
Further, the heart needs to be ready to embrace the truth of Wisdom, the knowledge of God, which is happiness. The heart is instructed in fertile soil of the soul by the agents of the Word of God. The Church’s faith professes (cf. CCC 2707) that fertile soil is maintained by authentic mental prayer. Authentic in the mode that it grasps the first truth of what was revealed in his person, the word of God - who we believe established the Catholic Church, in which Sacred Scripture “safeguards” the sacred deposit of faith. We believe that grace leads all believers to accept this deposit from one’s heart.
  1. Not all are humble in the transmission of this deposit. The receiver is brought to a standpoint in grace to accept the Law from proud men. Consider this, if one admits they are humble, they no longer are humble. Such is the nature of humility. We cannot grasp the absolute truth of what we present from our mind. For words are signs, and the thing signified are separate items. Wherefore, we need God’s Spirit to bank on what we say will have his effect and not our own intention, all we intend is to conform our wills to the Lord’s. And accept the Church’s faith as a faith to purify our individual faith. Hence, we become universal as we become wiser. In Greek Septuagint a translation says, “Give an opportunity to a wise man, and he will be wiser: instruct a just man, and he will receive more instruction. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the counsel of saints is understanding: for to know the law is the character of a sound mind.” (Prov 9:9, 10, lxx) The humble are given opportunities in the Church, they are docile to the Spirit, even so to receive instruction. They fear to offend God, particularly in disrupting the wise goodness that maintains the authenticity of the Church.
 
animalis said:
We cannot grasp the absolute truth of what we present from our mind. For words are signs, and the thing signified are separate items.
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St. Bonaventure said, “truth can be understood in two ways. In one way, truth is identical with entity of a being. To this, Augustine writes in his Soliloquies (2, 5, 8) that ‘truth is whatever exists.’ In another sense, truth is the expressive light in intellectual knowledge. Anselm writes about this in his book, Concerning Truth: ‘Truth is a rightness perceptible only to the mind.’…In the first instance, truth is the remote principle of knowledge. In the second instance, it is the proximate and immediate principle of knowledge.” (The Disputed Questions on the Knowledge of Christ, q. 2, reply to 9)

In the second sense only the mind is in consideration, outside of that immediate context the expression of such loses strict validity, truth, or it would be unclear. With that limitation we could only estimate ourselves and our standpoint. If we estimate and say upon that estimation that we are humble, we credit ourselves with God’s saving action. We express a word of humility on our self-perceived likeness and not on the being that sustains us all. We don’t concern the whole, when we acknowledge our foundation of virtue and say it is our own, that it be grasped by the reason we vocalize.

If I say that the humility is not my own, I would not be correct to perceive a flaw in the context of the whole of how I recall the whole of everything I perceived. And another line of reason would be in order to correct, who it is that sustains us in our mistakes of perception, be it towards others or ourself.

So you see to be a universal believer and expresser, you regard the orientation of the idea for the causes of things. It was a divine idea that founded the Church. Why? Why only one in a whole of diversity?

Investigation in terms that are clear provide a end reason for why the belief is clear. Clearly, then you are a disciple of your own thought process. How clear could you be to yourself? I do not see sense in me. But Baptism is always given by another, it is a chain, better said a communion. Do we fit in the diversity? The divine idea has to be expressed in actions of love. Thereby, the diverse get the right idea from the Lord by the Love given. And such the Catholic faith becomes a universal belief.
 
Marie5890 said:
Agree completely! 🙂

Still not quite what I was trying to get to, but that is closer for sure.

Perhaps it’s along the lines of whether we, since we are fallen, sometimes are so insecure in ourselves, that we believe an apology is owed us because we feel so broken? :confused:

Something for me to ponder on for sure.
It’s one of those grey areas of “what does authentic Disciple of Our Lord” that I am trying to discern.

Sometimes it takes me some time in contemplating what the culture says is “right” and what Christ Himself taught and unwinding the two.
How to deal with people charitably without losing authenticity/credibility sense of discipleship.

And how does authentic humility demonstrate itself as well… 😊

So much to consider. 🙂

Thanks for all of your (name removed by moderator)ut. 🙂
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Humility, like all the virtues, is meant to be exercised more than to be analyzed. As you interact with others pray for the Holy Spirit’s guidance with an open heart. That’s all you need to do. Just remember that it is God’s work we’re doing not our own, and let God direct you. 🙂
 
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