Dude, you sound like a feneyite, which is a heresy itself. You sit there and point out how others are probably going to hell, but feneyism has been condemned by the church.
Are you reading what I am saying?
First off do you believe that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church?
“They could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it, or to remain in it.” - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican II.
I’ve pretty much said what I can say, but Christ and the Church makes it very clear what one must do to obtain salvation. If one rejects the faith, they have no hope of salvation, or at least a very slim chance. If you believe that one who rejects Catholic dogma is saved, then you, my friend, are the heretic here, not me. Many saints and popes have made declarations of what one must do to get to heaven, and also what will put somebody in hell. The language of the hierarchy changed after Vatican II, but that does not mean they changed the dogma, just the language.
But again, anything is possible with God. He can save whom He wants to.
I did not call you both, I made a comparison between the two, both extreme positions exist on either side of the Tiber. That does not make me “Anti-Catholic”, just anti-you!
They are catholic, in so much as they hold to the ancient creeds, most notably “The Athanasius Creed”, which defines the catholic faith. I agree w/you that it’s not the good a person does, but the state of the soul, we may disagree on how the soul is in or arrives at such a state. John MacArthur, who is a rabid anti-Catholic, would say that he loves Catholics as well, and the only loving thing he can do for them is tell them the “truth.”
Well, I have to believe that, again, his form of the truth is distorted.
The Athanasius Creed? Isn’t the first line like “to be saved one first and foremost must hold the Catholic faith”? Inconsistent for protestants, I guess. It didn’t make sense for me to stand in Episcopal pews and say the Nicene creed, “we believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic church” and think, “what? why would we believe in the Church and reject its teachings and remain outside of it?”. I understand it’s a bit more complicated than that, but it got me thinking.
But I guess for now we will just have to agree to disagree, since I’ve said all I can say on this issue.
May God speed your steps, and Mary ever-Virgin intercede for you.
