Radical Homosexuals Outline Strategy for Advancing their Agenda at UN

[exoflare]

Anyway, what about this article is so ridiculous? I just read it, and it was nothing like what I expected after looking at the posts here first. From the kind of responses it’s been provoking here, you’d think the article was promoting the execution of gay people Old Testament style or something.

Some of you people are just too sensitive. Homosexuals have the same rights as the rest of us here, at least in the US. Shame on us for deciding not to label a sexual perversion as normal though… I guess this is one of their much touted “rights”.

Also, hate crime legislation is a joke. Yes, I said that.
Shaaame on me for believing a crime is just as wrong no matter who it is done against. The horror.

 

[Mirdath]

Kinsey? Surely you’re joking? What’s next, Herod’s ideas on how best to run the Nazereth créche?

A closer analogy would be Freud’s ideas on psychotherapy. Some things wrong, some right, all of it very important to the modern idea.

You may liken him to a monster on the level of Herod or Hitler, but ‘disagreeing with your moral views on sexuality’ does not make anyone monstrous. Mistaken, perhaps, at best – and that’s only if you’re correct.

 

[JEANNIEMAC]

Homosexuality defies logic. Sexual attraction exists as an inducement to participation in the reproductive act - otherwise no one would be bothered, and the species would die out. A sexual attraction between two persons of the same sex, for whom a mating is a biological impossibility, is illogical and dysfunctional.
To give credibility and acceptance to a dysfunctional lifestyle is ludicrous.

 

[emily47017]

Also, hate crime legislation is a joke. Yes, I said that.
Shaaame on me for believing a crime is just as wrong no matter who it is done against. The horror.

i’d be keen to see a new thread about hate crimes legislation… it’s a big, big topic.

the difference between beating up on someone and beating up on someone expressly because they are a member of a minority is not a joke. the crime sends a message to everyone else in that minority: “you are hated, and you will be beaten or killed because you are hated, and you’d better not let the sun set on you in this town.” the KKK’s reign of terror in the jim crow south was the most extreme example in the last century. they had black men lowering their eyes, taking off their hats and calling white men “sir” while accepting virtually any form of humiliation because the message was being so clearly communicated.

it’s not a joke to declare that this is no way for a society to conduct itself.

 

[rush176]

i’d be keen to see a new thread about hate crimes legislation… it’s a big, big topic.

the difference between beating up on someone and beating up on someone expressly because they are a member of a minority is not a joke. the crime sends a message to everyone else in that minority: “you are hated, and you will be beaten or killed because you are hated, and you’d better not let the sun set on you in this town.” the KKK’s reign of terror in the jim crow south was the most extreme example in the last century. they had black men lowering their eyes, taking off their hats and calling white men “sir” while accepting virtually any form of humiliation because the message was being so clearly communicated.

it’s not a joke to declare that this is no way for a society to conduct itself.

Crime and sin are never jokes. My problem with trying to determine whether some are hate crimes and others not hate crimes is its too subjective. If a serial rapist is in an area all women are threatened and scared. For their own protection they change their behavior, don’t go out alone, don’t go to certain areas etc. What difference does it make if it happens in a predominately black area versus a predominantly white area. Are the women less harmed in the white area therefore the sentencing of the criminal should be less? Plus how would you be certain that some crimes are committed due to hate versus a crime of opportunity. If a black man is beat up by a group of whites is it automatically because he is black or is it because he cheered for the other football team or just was in the wrong place at the wrong time? None of us are God and we will never be certain the motives of criminals. I think we should just treat everyone fairly.

 

[exoflare]

it’s not a joke to declare that this is no way for a society to conduct itself.

So tell the person who said that it was!

 

[IanBoyd57]

Are we infringing on gay rights or are we resisting the creation of a newly invented “right”? When did the infringement on this supposedly obvious and intrinsic right begin? Was there a pre-discrimination Eden when gay rights were recognized and gay marriage an acceptable lifestyle? Please cite. On the other hand, heterosexual marriage is an established precedent for many thousands of years.

To be clear, I am not opposed to certain marriage-type priveleges for committed monogamous gay couples. Not because I believe the homosexual lifestyle to be an equally acceptable lifestyle to the heterosexual one, but because I think the practical benefits of encouraging monogamy far outweigh the problems of gay marriage.

There’s got to be a compromise.

Interesting point. Were we “inventing” the right of slaves to be free?

Slavery was an established institution for a very very long time as well.

In fact, God is extremely pro-slavery. Over and over again the all loving creator of the universe orders and condones slavery.

He even gives instructions on how to beat the heck out of your slaves without losing productivity.

That doesn’t make it right.

Please, after you write something out, analyze it objectively and try to make sure it makes sense.

However, I do applaud you for acquiescing to certain monogamous gay couples priviledges. It’s not much, but it’s something, and at least you have first looked at, well, reality and then based your positions on, well, reality. Good for you. Minimizing harm is always the right thing to do.

 

[PKoucheravy]

Interesting point. Were we “inventing” the right of slaves to be free?

Slavery was an established institution for a very very long time as well.

In fact, God is extremely pro-slavery. Over and over again the all loving creator of the universe orders and condones slavery.

He even gives instructions on how to beat the heck out of your slaves without losing productivity.

That doesn’t make it right.

Please, after you write something out, analyze it objectively and try to make sure it makes sense.

However, I do applaud you for acquiescing to certain monogamous gay couples priviledges. It’s not much, but it’s something, and at least you have first looked at, well, reality and then based your positions on, well, reality. Good for you. Minimizing harm is always the right thing to do.

First off, you do make a good point with the slavery example. That is troublesome.

However, on the other hand, after YOU right something, go back and read it and see if you sound like a jerk. I expressed my opinion and posed questions – and you responded by being smug and condescending. “…at least you have first looked at, well, reality…” Give all of us “unenlightened” a break, get over yourself.

 

[East_and_West]

Amorality?

You guys are the one opposing hate crime legislation and equal marriage rights and you’re calling *us *amoral?

Ugh. You don’t see me trying to get the state to not recongize Catholic marraiges or stopping anti-catholic violence/discrimination.

Come now. Be reasonable. Hat crime legislation makes crimes against certian groups more serious. Should it be a more serious crime to kill a gay guy than a straight guy. Murder is murder in my book. Gays should not be a special protected classs.
Equal rights? What on earth are you talking about. Every man, regardless of his sexual order/disorder can marry a woman. Every woman, regardless of her sexual order/disorder can marry a man. Sounds equitable to me.

 

[Dale_M]

Murder is murder in my book.

Are you sure? A driver who runs a red light, killing a pedestrian - murder? Or is it manslaughter? What if the driver was drunk? Or if the driver got in the car with the intention of running over that pedestrian? Or if the driver, after hitting the pedestrian, backs up and drives over him again? Most states recognize that murder and manslaughter are different crimes and, indeed, that murder comes in different degrees depending on the intentions of the murderer. I don’t think hate crime legislation is different in recognizing the intentions of the perpetrator.

Every man, regardless of his sexual order/disorder can marry a woman. Every woman, regardless of her sexual order/disorder can marry a man. Sounds equitable to me.

Okay, lets say a law is passed exempting Alaska residents from federal income tax and that they will receive an annual income subsidy of $5000 from the federal government. By your reasoning, this would be equitable considering that people in the rest of the U.S. can simply move to Alaska.

 

[s4angel]

Homosexual activists???

I wont pretend to even begin to understand this issue… A marraige I thought was to bring two people togather and create a family.

hmmm. I think I am not as smart as I should be but what is it that the activist are trying to do??? Same sex marraige does that mean my tax dollars will again be used to support not only abortion but now give medical insurance and support for their agenda??

I am confused.