Raffles and Bingo

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Is it against the teachings of the church to participate in Bingos and Raffles?
 
If it is then my parish is in big trouble and would have to shut down the school. Fifty percent of the school’s operating revenue comes from weekly bingo and the occasional raffle.
 
I think the difference with bingo and raffles is there is a definite payout, and a definite fund raising amount, as supposed to other forms of gaming where gambling means no one may win at all and the one who runs the games would probably pocket most of the money.
 
Hi Chatter,

I would see bingo as being morally fine because the value of the entertainment the person gets is easily worth whatever they may “lose”. If you spend a few dollars for a whole evening, that’s not going to cause anyone financial distress the way Vegas can.

Just my take on it.

God bless,
Joan
 
Joan1969 said:
Hi Chatter,

I would see bingo as being morally fine because the value of the entertainment the person gets is easily worth whatever they may “lose”. If you spend a few dollars for a whole evening, that’s not going to cause anyone financial distress the way Vegas can.

Just my take on it.

God bless,
Joan
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Another good point, its a more controlled environment in terms of betting. Rather than Vegas where its spend-all-you-can-and-then-some
 
ConstantineTG said:
Another good point, its a more controlled environment in terms of betting. Rather than Vegas where its spend-all-you-can-and-then-some
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I’ve seen people spend hundreds of dollars at bingo games. Often people on welfare or working minimum wage jobs will blow money++++++ on ‘pull tab tickets’, the $0.50 cardboard jobs where you open 3 or 5 sections to reveal various combinations of symbols, not unlike slot machines. I have worked at a few bingo nights manning the pull tab ticket booth and I wanted to vomit at the amount of money spent there. It’s even more revolting when you know that almost all the prizes have already been won and their $20 purchase can’t win more than $5.
 
Phemie said:
I’ve seen people spend hundreds of dollars at bingo games. Often people on welfare or working minimum wage jobs will blow money++++++ on ‘pull tab tickets’, the $0.50 cardboard jobs where you open 3 or 5 sections to reveal various combinations of symbols, not unlike slot machines. I have worked at a few bingo nights manning the pull tab ticket booth and I wanted to vomit at the amount of money spent there. It’s even more revolting when you know that almost all the prizes have already been won and their $20 purchase can’t win more than $5.
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Usually bingos meant for fund raising has a set number of tickets. This means that one cannot just buy and buy tickets until one blows all his life savings. I agree though that if one is poor, even the smallest amount is killing your budget.

Isn’t the pull-tab thing the same thing that the Canadian lottery sells at convenience stores?
 
ConstantineTG said:
Usually bingos meant for fund raising has a set number of tickets. This means that one cannot just buy and buy tickets until one blows all his life savings. I agree though that if one is poor, even the smallest amount is killing your budget.

Isn’t the pull-tab thing the same thing that the Canadian lottery sells at convenience stores?
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Yes, same thing, but for some reason the atmsphere at bingo games seems to make their purchase much more attractive. Not to mention how much money is spent on bingo cards for all the different games beyond the games/cards that you get for the price of admission.
 
CCC2413 states, “They [games of chance] become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others.” I would say that we have a moral obligation not to participate as workers or organizers in something which we know enslaves people and deprives them of the basic necessities of life.

*2414 "The seventh commandments forbids acts or enterprises that for any reason - selfish or ideological, commercial, or totalitarian - lead to the enslavement of human beings, to their being bought, sold and exchanged like merchandise, in disregard for their personal dignity. I tis a sin against the dignity of a person and their fundamental rights to reduce them by violence to their productive value or to a source of profit. St. Paul directe a Christian master to treat his Christian slave “no longer as a slave but more than a slave, as a beloved brother,… both in the flesh and in the Lord.” *Anything which uses a person and reduces them to profit at the expense of dignity is forbidden.

-Tim-
 
TimothyH said:
CCC2413 states, “They [games of chance] become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others.” I would say that we have a moral obligation not to participate as workers or organizers in something which we know enslaves people and deprives them of the basic necessities of life.
2414 "The seventh commandments forbids acts or enterprises that for any reason - selfish or ideological, commercial, or totalitarian - lead to the enslavement of human beings, to their being bought, sold and exchanged like merchandise, in disregard for their personal dignity. I tis a sin against the dignity of a person and their fundamental rights to reduce them by violence to their productive value or to a source of profit. St. Paul directe a Christian master to treat his Christian slave “no longer as a slave but more than a slave, as a beloved brother,… both in the flesh and in the Lord.”
Anything which uses a person and reduces them to profit at the expense of dignity is forbidden.

-Tim-
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Exactly. And since the OP never even hinted that this was the case, one has no reason to assume that in the discussion.
 
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