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Shellac
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:banghead: NOOOOOOOOOO!. HowMahony can do this is beyound me. 
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bob
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Holy communion should only be received by a person who is not in a state of mortal sin.
Homosexuals, unremarried divorcees, etc are permitted into the church and receive communion so long as they ARE NOT SINNING.
To receive communion while a practicing homosexual is a sacrilege. Any priest or bishop allowing someone like that to receive communion knowingly is committing a sacrilege.
Homosexuals, unremarried divorcees, etc are permitted into the church and receive communion so long as they ARE NOT SINNING.
To receive communion while a practicing homosexual is a sacrilege. Any priest or bishop allowing someone like that to receive communion knowingly is committing a sacrilege.
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Veronica_Anne
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Um… sanctioned ???
You mean – officially approved?
“give effective or authoritative approval or consent to”
m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=sanctioned
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Veronica_Anne
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Let’s all pray some rosaries over this!
I forget who it was who relatively recently said “If the Lord does not smite America over this, He owes a big apology to Sodom!”
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Karl_Keating
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I was brought up in Long Beach, and my parents still live there. I know the city, and it is not “a largely homosexual city” where “everyone … not only accepts, but embraces homosexuality.”
I hope this kind of gross exaggeration will not be replicated in other posts, whether in this thread or in any other.
Members of these forums are free to convey “facts,” but the “facts” should have a real basis in reality. Kadee’s remarks do not.
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Thomas2
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I think the parable of the dishonest steward applies to Cardinal Mahoney’s actions.
The poor man obviously needs to be accepted by people more than he feels the need to be pleasing to God. He needs our prayers and a good talking to. Who knows what goes on between his ears? I’m sure he has his reasons for permitting the Church to be slapped in the face in his sight by those who feel that the Communion line is the appropriate place for a demonstration of this type. But the fact remains as long as he’s running the “show” in L.A., we’ll have to put up with his antics. Get those Rosaries rattling folks. If you want a better Church, be a better Catholic!
Peace and all good,
Thomas2
The poor man obviously needs to be accepted by people more than he feels the need to be pleasing to God. He needs our prayers and a good talking to. Who knows what goes on between his ears? I’m sure he has his reasons for permitting the Church to be slapped in the face in his sight by those who feel that the Communion line is the appropriate place for a demonstration of this type. But the fact remains as long as he’s running the “show” in L.A., we’ll have to put up with his antics. Get those Rosaries rattling folks. If you want a better Church, be a better Catholic!
Peace and all good,
Thomas2
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Faustina
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Here is the story I read:
Priests at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago refused to give the Eucharist to about 10 people wearing the sashes at Sunday Mass. One priest shook each person’s hand; another made the sign of the cross on their foreheads.
“The priest told me you cannot receive communion if you’re wearing a sash, as per the Cardinal’s direction,” said James Luxton, a Chicago member of the Rainbow Sash Movement, an organization of Catholic gay-rights supporters with chapters around the country.
An internal memo from Chicago Cardinal Francis George that became public last week instructed priests not to give communion to people wearing the sashes, which the group’s members wear every year for Pentecost. The memo says the sashes are a symbol of opposition to the church’s doctrine on homosexuality and exploit the communion ritual.
“The Rainbow Sash movement wants its members to be fully accepted by the Church not on the same conditions as any Catholic but precisely as gay,” George wrote. “With this comes the requirement that the Church change her moral teaching.”
Rainbow Sash Movement spokesman Joe Murray was among those denied communion in Chicago. He said members wearing the sashes should be seen no differently than a uniformed police officer or Boy Scout seeking communion.
“What we saw today in the cathedral is discrimination at the Eucharistic table, and that shouldn’t be happening,” Murray said. Those denied communion returned to their pews, but stood while the rest of the congregation knelt.
The movement, which started about five years ago in England, also has members in Dallas, New Orleans, New York and Rochester, N.Y.
In St. Paul, Minn., people wearing the rainbow-colored sashes were given communion Sunday despite protests from some parishioners who kneeled in front of the altar blocking their way.
The Rev. Michael Skluzacek said in a written statement that both sides were “mistakenly using the Mass and the Eucharist to make their own personal statements.”
Brian McNeill, organizer of the Rainbow Sash Alliance of the Twin Cities, said the local group has worn the sashes every Pentecost at St. Paul Cathedral since 2001, but the group had never experienced such a confrontation.
A Vatican (news - web sites) doctrinal decree last year directed at Catholic politicians said a well-formed conscience forbids support for any law that contradicts “fundamental” morality, with abortion listed first among relevant issues. A second Vatican statement said it is “gravely immoral” not to oppose legalization of same-sex unions.
I particularly like the idea that the Church needs to change its moral teaching
Apparently these “Catholic” have not been taught were the Church’s teachings come from.
Priests at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago refused to give the Eucharist to about 10 people wearing the sashes at Sunday Mass. One priest shook each person’s hand; another made the sign of the cross on their foreheads.
“The priest told me you cannot receive communion if you’re wearing a sash, as per the Cardinal’s direction,” said James Luxton, a Chicago member of the Rainbow Sash Movement, an organization of Catholic gay-rights supporters with chapters around the country.
An internal memo from Chicago Cardinal Francis George that became public last week instructed priests not to give communion to people wearing the sashes, which the group’s members wear every year for Pentecost. The memo says the sashes are a symbol of opposition to the church’s doctrine on homosexuality and exploit the communion ritual.
“The Rainbow Sash movement wants its members to be fully accepted by the Church not on the same conditions as any Catholic but precisely as gay,” George wrote. “With this comes the requirement that the Church change her moral teaching.”
Rainbow Sash Movement spokesman Joe Murray was among those denied communion in Chicago. He said members wearing the sashes should be seen no differently than a uniformed police officer or Boy Scout seeking communion.
“What we saw today in the cathedral is discrimination at the Eucharistic table, and that shouldn’t be happening,” Murray said. Those denied communion returned to their pews, but stood while the rest of the congregation knelt.
The movement, which started about five years ago in England, also has members in Dallas, New Orleans, New York and Rochester, N.Y.
In St. Paul, Minn., people wearing the rainbow-colored sashes were given communion Sunday despite protests from some parishioners who kneeled in front of the altar blocking their way.
The Rev. Michael Skluzacek said in a written statement that both sides were “mistakenly using the Mass and the Eucharist to make their own personal statements.”
Brian McNeill, organizer of the Rainbow Sash Alliance of the Twin Cities, said the local group has worn the sashes every Pentecost at St. Paul Cathedral since 2001, but the group had never experienced such a confrontation.
A Vatican (news - web sites) doctrinal decree last year directed at Catholic politicians said a well-formed conscience forbids support for any law that contradicts “fundamental” morality, with abortion listed first among relevant issues. A second Vatican statement said it is “gravely immoral” not to oppose legalization of same-sex unions.
I particularly like the idea that the Church needs to change its moral teaching
Apparently these “Catholic” have not been taught were the Church’s teachings come from.
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Crusader
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Veronica Anne:
My apologia. How about “take action”Um… sanctioned ???
You mean – officially approved?
“give effective or authoritative approval or consent to”
m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=sanctioned
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Crusader
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That’s very good advice…
I have to wonder why Mahony is not replaced however. He’s had his time at the top. It’s time the healing began and it should start with him quietly “retiring.”
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Marie
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This msnbc News report made me smile…especialy this part.
That makes me giggle. Who knows. Maybe Mahoney did something right. If they were not going to be protested they didn’t bother showing up. Just a thought. More a serious backfire or providential. Either way I’m smiling. Actually I am :dancing:
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