Ramadan (Islamic fasting month) starts August 10/11.

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I cannot see Ramadan fasting as “fasting”. It’s more like feasting. Fasting in the Catholic Church means having only one full meal a day and two other small meatless meals that together don’t equal a full meal. We’re allowed liquids; they don’t break the fast. Muslims starve themselves during the day and then gorge themselves at night. They gain weight as we’ve already seen. How can real fasting make someone gain weight? What’s the sense of that and how does that bring solidarity with the poor as Muslims claim?

Vickie
 
DebChris said:
Christians have Lent. Jews have Yom Kippur. Muslims have Ramadan. Each of these periods is one of time of repentance for how we have failed to live according to God’s commands.

One of the purposes to fasting is to feel what the poor experience on a daily basis. This is a partial explanation given today by a Muslim about why they fast. It takes discipline to refrain from eating or drinking for 12 to 14 hours at a time.
The O.T. talks about the type of fasting that God asks of each of us, not simply from food but from quarreling. It was a Muslim who confessed to me how he had broken the fast by arguing with his wife in the morning.
Jew, Christian, or Muslim, each of us is a descendant of Abraham. Each of worships the one true God although we differ in how we worship and specifics of what we believe. Each of us is called to follow the Golden Rule, to treat one another with respect despite our differences.

Yesterday’s headline: Protect God’s Places of Worship. The article quoted the Minister of Justice’s call to protect mosques from becoming a pulpit to spread terrorist rhetoric that is contrary to Islamic teaching.
What has been forgotten is the number of American Muslims who successfully claimed Conscientious Objector status during the Vietnam War.

I am beginning my second year working in the Persian Gulf. During my time here, I have never felt unsafe.
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allah is not YHWH. allah is mohammed’s alter ego at the very most and a mishmash of mohammed’s pagan god(s), and what he heard from the Jews and Christians that he lived around. Mohammed changed what allah wanted/said as the days passed. When Mohammed realized that he only got about 150 converts in the 13 years of a sort of peaceful prostelytizing he turned to violence and made allah the one who was the cause of it. When mohammed wanted some sexual daliance (his stepson’s wife, a child, slaves, his aunt, etc), he used that same entity to get what he wanted.

allah is not even close to YHWH. Just because in the end mohammed decided it would just be allah, he almost included allah’s three daughters into the mix until he was criticized for doing so.

But I think that this was gone over in different threads that I perused a few months ago.
 
Booklover said:
I cannot see Ramadan fasting as “fasting”. It’s more like feasting. Fasting in the Catholic Church means having only one full meal a day and two other small meatless meals that together don’t equal a full meal. We’re allowed liquids; they don’t break the fast. Muslims starve themselves during the day and then gorge themselves at night. They gain weight as we’ve already seen. How can real fasting make someone gain weight? What’s the sense of that and how does that bring solidarity with the poor as Muslims claim?

Vickie
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People fast in all religions,buddhism,hinduism,islam,christianity etc…what you view as fasting is yours,it doesnt mean that others do as well.Our fasting is different from yours.According to islam…the way you fast is not real fasting,and according christianity our way is not true fasting

And you should be able to make a difference between what muslims do and what islam says they should do,the feast during nights is something some people do-not what islam is.just like the christians created a secular christmas,here in Europe christmas has nothing to do with religion anymore…it doesnt mean that christianty teaches the same
 
Booklover said:
I cannot see Ramadan fasting as “fasting”. It’s more like feasting. Fasting in the Catholic Church means having only one full meal a day and two other small meatless meals that together don’t equal a full meal. We’re allowed liquids; they don’t break the fast. Muslims starve themselves during the day and then gorge themselves at night. They gain weight as we’ve already seen. How can real fasting make someone gain weight? What’s the sense of that and how does that bring solidarity with the poor as Muslims claim?

Vickie
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The price of food is soaring during ramadan at least here in Indonesia, that shows how much they “bring solidarity with the poor”.They say what they earn in a year, they spend in one month…that’s “wise”:rolleyes:
 
Byzantine_Wolf said:
Sadly, the holidays tend to be a high point for crime. Robberies increase around Christmas, so it doesn’t surprise me that in some Muslim countries they would increase around Ramadan.

Now all we need is How the Grinch Stole Ramadan…
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I see that but the thing is Muslim claim that during ramadan, the devil or the satans are supposed to be tied up somewhere somehow…that is the contradiction in reality!:rolleyes:
Not to mention that during this month they somehow become more sensitive and tend to feel more righteous and judgemental to the whole other community, it is during this time here in Indonesia that religious conflicts also escalate…only just before ramadan, here in Indonesia some muslims thug had tried to broke down a church, a statue of Bima (representing Hindu) etc, etc…Gosh!!
 
bosnian_muslim said:
People fast in all religions,buddhism,hinduism,islam,christianity etc…what you view as fasting is yours,it doesnt mean that others do as well.Our fasting is different from yours.According to islam…the way you fast is not real fasting,and according christianity our way is not true fasting

And you should be able to make a difference between what muslims do and what islam says they should do,the feast during nights is something some people do-not what islam is.just like the christians created a secular christmas,here in Europe christmas has nothing to do with religion anymore…it doesnt mean that christianty teaches the same
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Yes, your way of fasting is certainly very different from ours! Why can’t you reply without using a tu quoque? :rolleyes:

Vickie
 
By the time dusk comes, I am very hungry. How can a person say that is not fasting? Since I am not Muslim I am allowed to eat, just not publicly.
Just 2 dates at dusk goes a long way to restoring energy lost during the day. The most difficult part of Ramadan is not drinking anything, and as a banker put it “especially when you have to talk to people all day.”

Ramadan ends with Eid Al-Fahd. It is a time to celebrate the abundance of God. We should all have thankful hearts for what God has provided.
 
Tide210 said:
Is that really necessary? I mean, really? What kind of response do you expect from a post like that? Obviously most of us here aren’t Muslim, the least we can do is treat our brothers and sisters with respect. If you disagree with his religion, fine, but keep your snarky comments to yourself.
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That was not a snarky comment. The OP lives in the benighted darkness of a warlord’s Christ denying creed. The post tells him that a Christian who by the infinite grace of God is called, will pray to the Prince of Peace for his enlightenment…an act of charity.

I wish only good to my muslim neighbours but I won’t pretend that the “faith” they profess and are the primary victims of is other than what it is.
 
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